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Charon
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posted May 12, 2004 22:03
    
It's very shocking.It's strange. I posted this on a site I won't mention where there were some fairly intelligent people in complete outrage out how the Iraqi prisoners were being treated by American soldiers and it was a couple of pages long...and they have a point...so I posted this one and gave a warning and still...not one reply. I just don't understand people sometimes. What happened to this guy just makes no sense what-so-ever.
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Simon6
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posted May 14, 2004 04:09
Don't watch that video.
I did it out of curiosity, but turned my head away most of the time.
Don't watch it.
Charon, I don't think it was a good idea to post that link here...I am speechless too.
But than again, this is quite a normal reaction of extremists because of what happened to the Iraqi prisoneers.
As I said, the American army does everything to make the Arabs freak out totally.
Now we have the results. War sucks anyway -------------------- What the...?
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Delightful Little Capuchin Monkey
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posted May 14, 2004 09:11
Holy crap. I shouldn't even bother, but...SIMON6 - I have to point out from the start that I am against the US presence in Iraq. I'm also against any mistreatment of the Iraqi prisoners. I also realize that Radical Muslims do not represent ALL of the Muslim world and that most Muslims are peaceful. The same can be said for Christians or any other religion. Lastly, I am not religious. That being said... Radical Muslims (those who kill in the name of Allah, going directly against the Qa'ran) are the fucking enemy of all decent human beings. You said "But than again, this is quite a normal reaction of extremists because of what happened to the Iraqi prisoneers. As I said, the American army does everything to make the Arabs freak out totally." You understand that you're asking the rest of the world to kowtow to their whim so we don't make them mad? Fuck off. Twice. I am against the occupation of Iraq, but I am 100% in full support of locating Al Qaeda members and burning them alive. Will that make other extrememists mad? I bet it will. I'm stunned that the world seems to be more shocked by videos of naked guys with panties on their heads than by a young man getting his head sawed off by terrorists. Fucking stupid.
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KnickerZohnonnof
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Member # 272
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posted May 14, 2004 17:01
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Originally posted by Cthon:
i guess that was directed at me. not trying to make a point, per se. trying to understand the morbid fascination with watching and "sharing" these videos...
Yes, you were right that was directed at you. 'Morbid fascination' is not the phrase that springs refreshingly to mind when I think about the moments as I clicked on the view buttion and watched the video. Incredulity that somebody could commit an act so barbaric, chanting 'Allah' all the way through the execution and that somebody actually filmed it in the full belief that this was 'justice'. Justice? I stand 100% against the alleged abuses that have been committed by allied troops in Iraq. It should also be recognised that these abuses are small-scale and relate to a tiny minority of individuals. But there is absolutely no justification for this. None at all. As barbaric as it is a part of me thinks people should see this video. Why? Not to be 'morbidly fascinated'. I want people to get the EXACT picture of what the hell we are dealing with here. They are fully fledged nut cases, I would suggest in the same vein as the Nazis, only far more overt in their actions and far more prepared to go the 'extra mile'. These people cannot be reasoned with. They aren't interested in peace. They are only interested in the destruction of Western civilisation, nothing else. 99.9 reocurring percent of all moslems have only one thing in common with them; the fact they are moslems, and I am certain that, like every moslem I have spoken to, want to be totally disassociated with these fanatics who do nothing but harm to their way of life. After seeing this video it is totally clear we absolutley have to get these individuals and remove the threat. Not just the perpetrators of this sick beheading; ALL OF THEM. They are brainwashing their subjects into believing that their actions are 'the will of Allah', that they will win a great victory against the infidels of the west. These fundamentalist groups must be taken out so that the ordinary people they habitually lie to can live their lives without the fear and opression they have had to endure for far too long. Yes, I think this video should be shared - people need to realise just how sick these groups are. Forget Iraq, this goes far, far wider than that. -------------------- Hail Santa...
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Cthon
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Member # 156
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posted May 14, 2004 17:29
Knick...next time write a book, why dont you? did someone modify the part where i ever said these extremists were 'good guys'. source?i watched the images from 9-11 and the Chechin (sp?) soldier beheading video. they all left me feeling very hollow and disappointed with both the human race and fundamentalist religions. ill take everyones word that this current video is just as vile, and keep my lunch, thanks. i also dont need to watch the videos as some kind of jackass "teaching tool" to know half the world hates Americans, either. i knew that before 9-11, go figure.
but i guess you have a point. everyone who thought terrorists were 'nice and soft' after 9-11 will surely change their mind after they see this!!!
um, is there anyone who thought that? no. -------------------- www.myspace.com/mastersofpunkrock
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KnickerZohnonnof
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posted May 14, 2004 18:47
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Originally posted by Cthon:
Knick...next time write a book, why dont you? did someone modify the part where i ever said these extremists were 'good guys'. source?i watched the images from 9-11 and the Chechin (sp?) soldier beheading video. they all left me feeling very hollow and disappointed with both the human race and fundamentalist religions. ill take everyones word that this current video is just as vile, and keep my lunch, thanks. i also dont need to watch the videos as some kind of jackass "teaching tool" to know half the world hates Americans, either. i knew that before 9-11, go figure.
but i guess you have a point. everyone who thought terrorists were 'nice and soft' after 9-11 will surely change their mind after they see this!!!
um, is there anyone who thought that? no.
Write a book...If you think that was long you should have seen some of the stuff I did when I was posting at burzum.com!! If I read my post correctly I never even implied you thought these extremists were the 'good guys', therefore a source is not required. And as to your last sentence? I think you will find that a lot of people are ignorant to how dangerous these types are. I was amazed at how many of the younger people at my workplace who, apart from not being aware that this had happened, were so nonchalant about it, almost like it was just one of those things. Most, if not all of us here are under no illusions about how brutal these groups are. I worry more about the increasing number of people, especially the youger generation, who seem to be totally oblivious to the world around them. That to me is more dangerous still. -------------------- Hail Santa...
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Hatröss
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Member # 7
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posted May 14, 2004 20:15
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Originally posted by Delightful Little Capuchin Monkey:
I'm stunned that the world seems to be more shocked by videos of naked guys with panties on their heads than by a young man getting his head sawed off by terrorists. Fucking stupid.
i agree, i think it is because all of the violence that has filled our t.v. screens over the years with most of it starting in the late 70's it seems. quote:
Knickerzohnonnof:
Forget Iraq, this goes far, far wider than that.
let their eyes open, it also goes way back too. that is a powerful training video in the hands of fanatics, which it was most likely used for and to desensitize their people, not to scare us ?
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