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Topic: A Discussion: Themes in Extreme Metal
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Slaytanic
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posted April 22, 2004 10:40
    
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Originally posted by Planetary Eulogy:
I would argue that you can't really separate the conceptual underpinnings of art (including lyrics) from its execution (in this case, the music itself). I don't think, for instance, that you could have substantially altered the worldview expressed by Slayer or Varg Vikernes and still ended up with Hell Awaits or Hvis lyset tar oss. I would go further and suggest that people who appreciate art at more than a social level (and I would say that applies to a greater or lesser extent to most people who enjoy non-mainstream artforms) do so because the art they enjoy resonates with them at a conceptual level.
Your capacity of typing, typing and saying/meaning nothing is amazing! You should start a new school on that, you'd get a lot of money.  -------------------- "Forty-five moments of perfection translated through a cautionary escape into the perils of the mundane, the inherent entropy in ultimate order, and the potential threats of eternal, unchecked apathy in civilization; all cloaked in musical expression so thoughtful, creative and forward thinking that almost a quarter-century later, few can even comprehend it, much less match it." (autothrall)
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Slaytanic
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posted April 22, 2004 12:08
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Originally posted by Planetary Eulogy:
The problem is your limited capacity to understand, child.
A problem I share with the rest of the world minus you, it looks, o wise one. -------------------- "Forty-five moments of perfection translated through a cautionary escape into the perils of the mundane, the inherent entropy in ultimate order, and the potential threats of eternal, unchecked apathy in civilization; all cloaked in musical expression so thoughtful, creative and forward thinking that almost a quarter-century later, few can even comprehend it, much less match it." (autothrall)
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KnickerZohnonnof
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posted April 22, 2004 12:36
For their next trick, our'educationally advanced' anus invaders will feed us the line that music and politics are intrinsically linked...One word sums that one up...BOLLOCKS. -------------------- Hail Santa...
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Slaytanic
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posted April 22, 2004 12:50
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Originally posted by prozak:
Funny, a guy who can't even spell "head" got it. Maybe if I took the time to put it into to Português you could hack it. I'm not going to though.
I would not think you have a single clue of how to speak Português, or Español, or even English, as shown above. English, or any language, for that matter, does not correct bad writing. That's a third thing for you to learn, then: agriculture, economy and how to write properly. But that last one will be difficult, I warn you: it requires talent, dunno if you have ever heard of it. -------------------- "Forty-five moments of perfection translated through a cautionary escape into the perils of the mundane, the inherent entropy in ultimate order, and the potential threats of eternal, unchecked apathy in civilization; all cloaked in musical expression so thoughtful, creative and forward thinking that almost a quarter-century later, few can even comprehend it, much less match it." (autothrall)
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KnickerZohnonnof
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posted April 22, 2004 12:58
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Originally posted by Planetary Eulogy:
Music and ideology, yes. The mistake is to reduce ideology to "politics."
I think I argued this one before on Anus before I was banned, so here we go... National Socialist Black Metal, as most know, is essentially a political ideology attached to an extreme form of music. Burzum is one example, though there are many others, Graveland, Thor's Hammer, ect. Just do a search, there are plenty of references. However, what if a pop band, for instance, Westlife, wrote NS lyrics to their music? Would our National Socialist friends be so enthusiastic? -------------------- Hail Santa...
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Planetary Eulogy
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posted April 22, 2004 13:33
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Originally posted by Knickerzohnonnof:
I think I argued this one before on Anus before I was banned, so here we go.
I've never had anything to do with the admin side of things there, so I don't know who banned you (to be honest, I don't even remember you posting on the forums, but I'm a pretty infrequent guest of the aether pub). quote:
National Socialist Black Metal, as most know, is essentially a political ideology attached to an extreme form of music. Burzum is one example, though there are many others, Graveland, Thor's Hammer, ect. Just do a search, there are plenty of references.
Even within the NSBM movement, you're talking about artists who are not so much concerned with politics as they are with outlook and mythos. I suppose the movement is political in the sense that in this world, any identification with Nazi iconography or mythology is an inherently political statement, but the political aspect is fairly peripheral. NSBM has a lot more to do with Evola and Nietzsche than it does with Hitler or Goering. quote:
However, what if a pop band, for instance, Westlife, wrote NS lyrics to their music?
A better question is, if Westlife was into NS ideology, would they even desire to write pop music? (Though, I must confess, I don't actually know who Westlife is).
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Planetary Eulogy
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posted April 22, 2004 13:39
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Originally posted by Slaÿtanic:
I would not think you have a single clue of how to speak Português, or Español, or even English, as shown above.
Language is my business, kid.
http://www.cicslanguagesolutions.com If you ever find yourself in need of document translation, drop me a line.
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Slaytanic
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posted April 22, 2004 13:48
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Originally posted by prozak:
Language is my business, kid.
http://www.cicslanguagesolutions.comIf you ever find yourself in need of document translation, drop me a line.
I thought your business was running anus.com...  Anyway, any retard can access a translation site and do the job, why (just in case someone believes you have such skills, which you don't, since you don't even know how to write São Paulo properly) would anyone need your services? Bankrupcy, bankrupcy...  -------------------- "Forty-five moments of perfection translated through a cautionary escape into the perils of the mundane, the inherent entropy in ultimate order, and the potential threats of eternal, unchecked apathy in civilization; all cloaked in musical expression so thoughtful, creative and forward thinking that almost a quarter-century later, few can even comprehend it, much less match it." (autothrall)
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Planetary Eulogy
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posted April 22, 2004 13:53
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Originally posted by Slaÿtanic:
I thought your business was running anus.com...
Yes, posting on a forum means I run the website. I guess I run this site too, right? quote:
Anyway, any retard can access a translation site and do the job
Machine translation makes Portgua look fluent in English by comparison. quote:
why (just in case someone believes you have such skills, which you don't, since you don't even know how to write São Paulo properly) would anyone need your services?
Simple, I'm not a português translator.
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KnickerZohnonnof
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posted April 22, 2004 14:00
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Originally posted by Planetary Eulogy:
A better question is, if Westlife was into NS ideology, would they even desire to write pop music? (Though, I must confess, I don't actually know who Westlife is).
No. This is classic question evasion. The question is would a pop band be accepted by NS affiliates if they wrote NS lyrics into their music? Your 'perception' of what a better question might be is of no interest to me, and is pure diversion. -------------------- Hail Santa...
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posted April 22, 2004 13:55
People from Anus are like mine, full of shit and smell kinda funny 
