"After hearing Nothingface i came to the conclusion that weak is the only answer.
Voivod is very progressive but this album is very clearly too progressive! Although the sound is very good the songs are extremely boring to me. Some of the riffs are ok and some of the chorus also. The vocals are boring and in talking-speed.
There are some nice parts on this album but you have to be real Voivod fan to just buy this album with closed eyes.....

4,5 out of 10

I just wanted to share this with you.
I allready killed the person who wrote this

--------------------

quote:

---

Originally posted by paul:
"this album is very clearly too progressive!"

---

Translation: "Help! Mommy! I don't get it! It makes my brain hurt..."

Hee hee. No-one ever said Voivod was for everyone.

quote:

---

Originally posted by paul:
I allready killed the person who wrote this

---

quote:

---

Originally posted by paul:
Although the sound is very good the songs are extremely boring to me.

---

--------------------

but I feel utterly superior to the author of this review merely for the fact that I understand and appreciate the genius that is Nothingface.

wotta cock.

--------------------

quote:

---

Originally posted by JP Balkenende:
There are some nice parts on this album but you have to be real Voivod fan to just buy this album with closed eyes.....

---

--------------------

I guess a lot of people don't like to use their brain when they listen to music.

--------------------

--------------------

"You have the option to drill additional holes in the label,
causing the record to rotate off the side of the turntable"

Considering the metal climate at the time it came out, of course it sounded alien to the non-adventurous. Not everyone has the patience. Besides, Nothingface wasnt even a metal record (it was much more than that). The reviewer still comes off as an ass, with that said.

Moi? I prefer Dimension Hatross anyway.
I remember not liking Nothingface at first either ("what the fuck is THAT?"). After a while i grew to understand it a little better, then eventually it wouldnt leave my record player for a year straight. Although today i can't stand it, mostly due to the production. Too clean and antiseptic. I much prefer the warm sound of DH.

quote:

---

Originally posted by hexonxonx:
schro, most people don't HAVE a brain, and those who do, still don't use it. And you want them to use it while listening to music? That's too much. They prefer RIAA shoving shit down their throats, and posing as "clever" by sharing that shit with others on KaZaa and other shitty networks.
Re-read 1984. Music for prols is composed on special machines, the only thing needed it to make some "hot new" music every week. The only thing prols care for is that the shit they listen to is "new", "cool", "hip", [place other buzz word here].
Now one of those germs wrote a review on Nothingface. What does he say? That it's music, and that he doesn't get it. Fair enough. Sweet dreams, bastard.

---

It sums up everything, Hexon.

But the guys in VOIVOD went to both schools... more of an education and broader knowledge. I think they also attended Punk scool for the summer, but left after a month to study bio-physics...

--------------------

quote:

---

Originally posted by Skulhed:
I come from Venom's school of thought

---

Hey, I like that: venomism.

This thread is great.

I think that Tangento sums it up: there is no such concept as "too progressive". The word progressive, to me, has to do with the idea of "progress", of bringing music beyond its limits. And to me, Voivod is much more than just a metal band; they actually transcend metal. Nothingface is the best exemple of that. They invented their language, their sound. There's nothing like it.

In my opinion Nothingface is Voivod's near best one, the first place will always be Dimention Hatrosssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

--------------------

quote:

---

Originally posted by Skulhed:
As far as the prog thing goes... bah, humbug. Doesnt do shit for me. I come from Venom's school of thought, not King Crimson's.

---

IMO, people who think this way limit themselves, falling into a narrow-minded trap where they end up missing out on some great music. The first mistake is to draw this imaginary line between bands like Venom and King Crimson. Right there you are creating unnecessary categories and thereby closing your mind off from a huge area of rock music.

It reminds me of these people I see around these boards who have their mile-long list of favorite bands, and each and every one of them is some copycat black metal bullshit clone band with (yet another) logo no mortal human could possibly decipher. That's probably the normal scope of a narrow-minded 14 year old, but these are people who are in their 20s and 30s! I find that to be pretty fucking sad. Music is music. Find what you enjoy and leave the tags for the pathetic Rolling Clone 'critics' and MTV Disciples.

Just my take.

--------------------

"You have the option to drill additional holes in the label,
causing the record to rotate off the side of the turntable"

Yah, right.

Your royal highness Tangento (as well as all you "elite proggers"), please accept my most sincere apologies.

Everyone is entitled to his own opinion and their own tastes... that's what make the world so interesting.

Shit, look at all the stuff Mez listens to that I wouldn't spin if it was free... and I have a wide taste in music.

One man's trash is another man's treasure.

--------------------

Like Tangento, I don't think we should draw imaginary lines to label music and that definition of "copy cat black metal clone bands with weird logos" made my day!

On the other hand, I feel like Skul most of the times as I'd rather stick to songwriting and more primitive rock than to prog rock virtuose. Like Schroeder said: "One man's trash is another man's treasure".

quote:

---

Originally posted by Skulhed:
Well, I was meaning to write a long essay involving why certain genres of music appeal to me more than others. Alas, I've come to the realization that I, sadly, do not have the necessary intellectual skills to fulfill such task. Unfortunately, I cannot express (in an argumentative and witty manner) why I've always enjoyed good songwriting over flashy musicianship. Perhaps this is due to long, excessive exposure to inferior musical products. Whatever it is, I am deeply sorry that I am not as brilliant as you to understand and appreciate that prog rock thing.

Yah, right.

Your royal highness Tangento (as well as all you "elite proggers"), please accept my most sincere apologies.

Pompous assholes.

---

I think you misinterpreted my meaning there, Skul. There was certainly no offense intented in my post. I was just making a point. And I certainly do not consider myself to be elite, brilliant or pompous. Most proggers I run into *scoff* at my love of bands like Day Glo Abortions, GWAR, Anal Cunt, etc. Please don't lump me in with those fucking A-Holes.

--------------------

"You have the option to drill additional holes in the label,
causing the record to rotate off the side of the turntable"

I also loved the 'death metal logo' statement. Opeth is one of the few that is readable!!!

--------------------

btw, it was about unreadable black metal band logos...
unreadable death metal band logos are cool!

I still don't get the point of creating ANY logo for a band or product that you can't readily read and remember. That's just bad promotion. A logo should be quickly recognizable and leave an image that will make you remember it.

I do understand that it goes along with the style of music and image, but still makes no sense.

Sorry 'bout the Opeth thing!

--------------------

quote:

---

Originally posted by neutrino:
you're one hell of a pretentious elitist prog freak asswipe...

---

That's ahhh-zzz-weee-pay

(in case you don't know, that's from one of the funniest SNL skits ever. It starred Nicholas Cage, and he and his wife were trying to name a baby. I urge you to NEVER MISS an SNL rerun that was hosted by Cage. Anyone remember 'Tiny Elvis?)

--------------------

"You have the option to drill additional holes in the label,
causing the record to rotate off the side of the turntable"