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Seeate
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posted August 07, 2005 04:44     Profile for Seeate   Email Seeate     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Here's the deal; I've got a bunch of crappy old demos from the band I was in some years back on crappy old cassette tapes. I've been recording the audio from tape direct to wav format and from there I want to try and improve the sound quality.. EQ it a bit etc, then eventually dump it all on cd for safe keeping and laffs.

Can anyone recommend a good piece of software to do this? I currently have Cool Edit Pro.. while it's fairly good, I was wondering if there's anything that might be 'better'.

Cheers


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neutrino
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posted August 11, 2005 08:07     Profile for neutrino   Email neutrino     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
IMO, Cool Edit Pro is the perfect tool for that, Sound Forge is good too but personnally I like Cool Edit much more for its interface and excellent Help File (Help and Tip of the Day always very instructive, with quick examples)

For cleaning up wav files there's a great function for sampling the noise (tape hiss, background noise...) and remove it from the file:
in the menu Effects > Noise Reduction > Noise Reduction
Select a 'typical' sample of your noise (before or after the song), then use Noise Reduction on the whole file with that 'noise profile'...

the other Noise Reduction effects are pretty interesting too (Click/Pop Eliminator for vinyl restoration...)


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Emlyn K Helicopter
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posted August 11, 2005 08:15     Profile for Emlyn K Helicopter   Email Emlyn K Helicopter     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I've did a similar project a few years ago, taking all my old cassette tape demos and converting them to CD. At the end of the process (13 hours or so of material) I got it pretty much sussed out:

First thing is to get the tape onto PC as good as you can get it. Using as good a quality tape deck as you can borrow/steel is a given, as is using headcleaners and demagnitizing thingys (plastic thing you point at the play head, dunno how it works but it makes it sound better). Using a decent quality lead, connect it to the best soundcard you can borrow or steel. An old Soundblaster card will sound terrible - the newer versions recording at 24bit should be better. Although, you don't need to record at any higher than 16bit for his purpose. Set the levels so that it never clips (digital clipping, or going over the redline, sounds fucking awful) but with enough gain so that it occasionally hits the red area. Too quiet and there'll be not enough to work on.

Next - dehissing! I tend to use a program called Dart Pro - it takes a sample of noise from a gap before the music starts and subtracts it from the main part leaving you with no hiss. Other dehissing programs, such as the plug-in that comes with Soundforge and the Cubase one, tend to leave 'termites' artifacts which is annoying, but experiment with whatever you've got. Clean up all your files to remove the hiss.

Noise Reduction (dobly to you) on cassettes tends to cut off the top end of the music, making it sound dull. You can add some sparkle and vitality using an enhancer (which takes what you got in the mid-range and makes up harmonics to give you a shiney albeit false top end) or EQ (which takes what little you've got at the top and makes it louder). (it doesn't work on your hair)

The plug-ins that come with Cool Edit should have some presets that give you this, or you can use T-Racks mastering software which will not only give you EQ sparkle but also Multiband compression, making your music sound louder, the stereo field wider and, unless you overdo it, everything generally better with more energy.

This may sound complicated but really it's just a bunch of presets, theres no need to tweak any knobs or anything. Your old demos can go from unlistenable hissy shit to pristeen CD quality...well, you can't polish turds but you can spray them with purfume.

Good luck with it.

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Seeate
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posted August 11, 2005 17:20     Profile for Seeate   Email Seeate     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Thanks for the tips, I'll give them a try.

My soundcard is a creative 16 bit soundblaster .. it's not too bad for the task at hand.

I also managed to get hold of a copy of Adobe Audition. Which is basically Cool Edit Pro revamped. Adobe bought the software obviously and it's been developed quite well. It now has multitracking and on the fly effects options, which are very handy.

I think the most important thing, like you said, is getting a decent quality raw copy direct from the tape.

Anyway, thx again


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neutrino
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posted August 11, 2005 18:13     Profile for neutrino   Email neutrino     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Cool Edit Pro has multitracking too!
I'd stick with the original Cool Edit Pro, but that's just me, as I said I like the interface and help file, and Adobe software... is just the opposite.

Emlyn is right about DART pro (and the rest!), it's a great noise restoration tool as well but Cool Edit Pro does a really good job


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Seeate
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posted August 11, 2005 19:23     Profile for Seeate   Email Seeate     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I must have had an older version of Cool Edit perhaps.

Adobe Audition looks virtually the same as Cool Edit, they haven't tried to 'Adobify' it a such, which is probably a good thing if the software already works well.

I'll give DART pro a bash too and see how that works.


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