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Mezcalhead
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posted July 12, 2012 09:04     Profile for Mezcalhead   Email Mezcalhead     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
This guy makes some good points:

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B.U.C.O.
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posted July 12, 2012 10:06     Profile for B.U.C.O.   Email B.U.C.O.     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Fuck it, I love the pit, either being a part of one or watching the kids get crazy when I perform.
If it really bothers you, you can always find a spot in the venue where you'll be comfortable. If it bothers you anyway you should just stay the fuck home.

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hexonut
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posted July 12, 2012 13:05     Profile for hexonut   Email hexonut     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I hate the pit.
There are two kinds of people who are into metal music. Those who enjoy the music itself, and those who use the music as an excuse to get their lowest instincts out, as in getting silly or violent or whatnot. At a pop show it's usually silly, at a metal show it's usually violent. None of this has anything to do with the music though.

Pop music has degraded in the recent years so much that there's no music left in it. Metal scene is right now the battleground between the music biz execs who would like it to be bastardized the same way as pop and be left with silly shit only, and some bands who still prefer metal music to be creative.

And I totally agree with this article here, the mosh pit makes the execs win.

Kill the pit.

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h
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posted July 12, 2012 14:39     Profile for h   Email h     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
The problem is not the pit, it's the fucktards who have no idea what it's for. I long for the day when I can go to a gig and stage dive without getting a fist in my face. I've been in countless pits, and many moons ago it was full of people looking out for each other, and picking each other up when someone went down. Now it's become inhabited by morons who think the idea is to hurt each other and gain "battle scars". Another classic case of "Ruined By Idiots". I doubt I'll ever see a friendly pit again.

I blame the mainstream media. I keep hearing "celebrities" harping on about being "in the pit" at Coldplay gigs. Fucking idiots have never seen a pit in their lives.


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pppaaaüüülll
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posted July 12, 2012 14:41     Profile for pppaaaüüülll   Email pppaaaüüülll     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I do not agree with you on this one.

I love it when a pit is there. Usually I stand just before that in the front rows. Usually I stand at the right of the stage (near a bar...) Sometimes I get a poke in the back, that's all. Just do not go inside! I did that during Meshuggah 2 years ago and I ended up with a twisted knee. Old people should be more careful of their body...

There was a little pit during Coroner at the Tilburg fest. Most people didn't even notice it.

However, I agree with H that pits are not what they used to be anymore.

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h
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posted July 12, 2012 14:42     Profile for h   Email h     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I imagine location has a lot to do with this. Paul and his chilled out Roadburn visiting locals know what it's for!
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X-D
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posted July 12, 2012 14:56     Profile for X-D   Email X-D     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I suspect location is a huge factor. What I read about pits in the Northeast United States make me not even really want to go to shows over there.

The pits have changed over the years. I recall my first entry into the pit in the early/mid 80s and when you got knocked down, someone would scoop you right back up, give you a quick "all good?" look and your back into it. Even by the late 80s, they were filled with too many tough guys looking to knock you over, and I no longer participated in them. That said, I've never really had a problem as a spectator and it's still fun to watch... Keeping in mind Seattle metalheads are generally a friendly/drunken lot.

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DBC
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posted July 13, 2012 04:30     Profile for DBC   Email DBC     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by X-D: ..when you got knocked down, someone would scoop you right back up, give you a quick "all good?" look and your back into it.

That's how it still is in this part of Europe, when you go to the right band, where the audience isn't only in it's early 20's. Last year at Fortarock festival, the pits, yes constantly 3 of them, were huge at Sacred Reich's gig. It was all about fun and friendly people. That's a pit even an old man like me will attent.

Pits changed for sure, but I guess location, what band and stuff like acid are the biggest differences.

I remember a Soundgarden gig in the early 90's where some guys only went into the pit to proof their toughness, with loads of white nosepowder in them. Glad most people of the audience didn"t accept it and kicked them in their balls and threw them out. But it wasn't a pleasant situation with those assholes...

Pits should be fun and not violent !

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Cthon
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posted July 13, 2012 07:39     Profile for Cthon   Email Cthon     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
i remember the guy who used to run the music venue in Summerville always telling the stupid kids at hardcore shows to "KEEP THE KUNG FU IN THE DOJO!" hahaha.

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317537
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posted July 13, 2012 08:27     Profile for 317537   Email 317537     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
"There are the occasional bonus perks of private bar and food services, comfy stools to prop up next to, and private rest rooms devoid of any lines whatsoever (the ultimate convenience).

But most importantly, there is no pit."

LOL!

I predict a new trend in US metal concertgoing: senior shows!

Club owners, take note! There's a niche market just waiting to be tapped: yesterday's underage crowd dying to get into the club and rage is today's 40 and over crowd. They're not quite ready to sit at home with the old lady or old man, watching a live DVD of the band, supply of snacks and "Natural Light tallboys" (wth) on hand, private bathroom just down the hall. No, they still want to rage -- comfortably.

Possible solutions: special senior matinees!

"Many of you will call me a pussy for staying out of the pit, but that’s fine; in a few years, your doctor might be calling you brain damaged because you roided out at a Sevendust show. Or, god forbid, you might just be dumb enough, drunk enough, or a combination of the two to rush the stage at a Lamb of God concert and have security drop you on your head."

Hang on, then it's not "the pit" that's the problem; it's dumb, drunk and/or roided out folks in the pit.

So, administer breathalyser, tox screen and IQ test at pit entrance. Problem solved!

Now, now, don't start yelling about civil liberties. They've already been stripped down to nearly nothing in the name of homeland security.

Happy Moshing


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Luna
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posted July 13, 2012 12:16     Profile for Luna   Email Luna     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by paulussie:
(near a bar...)

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iiigggïïïrrr
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posted July 13, 2012 12:43     Profile for iiigggïïïrrr   Email iiigggïïïrrr     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Sorry folks, but at thrash or death metal shows I cannot stay out of the pit. They can get pretty wild here in Chile, but they're still friendly for the most part. I think the pit is a big part of those shows and I do really enjoy them. Of course I wouldn't mosh at a doom metal gig.

Sometimes I play the "Elder Moshpit Police" role: when I notice some kid (usually pretty young/unexperienced) is not getting it (deliberately punching or kicking people) I approach him and give him a BRUTAL kick in the ass. Then they notice it's not that fun and start behaving. Believe me, it works.

Of course they don't see who kicked them (it's a ninja kick) ... The surprised/clueless faces of those poor bastards are priceless.

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317537
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posted July 14, 2012 04:17     Profile for 317537   Email 317537     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iiigggïïïrrr:
They can get pretty wild here in Chile

I think I see you in there!


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iiigggïïïrrr
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posted July 14, 2012 19:57     Profile for iiigggïïïrrr   Email iiigggïïïrrr     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Actually, I was there. It was taken during Kreator's set at a festival we had in April. Crazy big pit!

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DBC
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posted July 15, 2012 03:26     Profile for DBC   Email DBC     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
That's how they produce crop circles in Chile

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317537
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posted July 15, 2012 05:22     Profile for 317537   Email 317537     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iiigggïïïrrr:
Actually, I was there.

I knew it! You are like a hurricane!

Watch out for the slo-mo doompit in October


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Mezcalhead
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posted July 15, 2012 08:10     Profile for Mezcalhead   Email Mezcalhead     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 317537:
"There are the occasional bonus perks of private bar and food services, comfy stools to prop up next to, and private rest rooms devoid of any lines whatsoever (the ultimate convenience).

But most importantly, there is no pit."

LOL!

I predict a new trend in US metal concertgoing: senior shows!

Club owners, take note! There's a niche market just waiting to be tapped: yesterday's underage crowd dying to get into the club and rage is today's 40 and over crowd. They're not quite ready to sit at home with the old lady or old man, watching a live DVD of the band, supply of snacks and "Natural Light tallboys" (wth) on hand, private bathroom just down the hall. No, they still want to rage -- comfortably.

Possible solutions: special senior matinees!

"Many of you will call me a pussy for staying out of the pit, but that’s fine; in a few years, your doctor might be calling you brain damaged because you roided out at a Sevendust show. Or, god forbid, you might just be dumb enough, drunk enough, or a combination of the two to rush the stage at a Lamb of God concert and have security drop you on your head."

Hang on, then it's not "the pit" that's the problem; it's dumb, drunk and/or roided out folks in the pit.

So, administer breathalyser, tox screen and IQ test at pit entrance. Problem solved!

Now, now, don't start yelling about civil liberties. They've already been stripped down to nearly nothing in the name of homeland security.

Happy Moshing


Hahah....senior matinees! That's hilarious...and a lot of truth there....


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h
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posted July 28, 2012 08:20     Profile for h   Email h     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Kinda funny timing this, as I went to see DRI the other night in a little bar and it kicked right off in the pit - but in a good way! This was a thing of beauty and I just couldn't not go in. Came out bruised and covered in beer, but I loved it! So yeah - no end of the mosh pit for me. It seems I still need to indulge occasionally!
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317537
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posted July 30, 2012 04:03     Profile for 317537   Email 317537     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by h:
Kinda funny timing this, as I went to see DRI the other night in a little bar and it kicked right off in the pit - but in a good way! This was a thing of beauty and I just couldn't not go in. Came out bruised and covered in beer, but I loved it!

Yeah! Nothing like getting out into the field to test a theory

This clip nicely illustrates your research; looked like a good time!


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Head Villain
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posted July 31, 2012 19:51     Profile for Head Villain   Email Head Villain     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote

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nothingface
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posted August 01, 2012 12:04     Profile for nothingface   Email nothingface     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I don't like to be involved, as I've usually paid to see a band I've waited quite a while to see. I don't need some huge rhinoceros-looking mother fucker trying to run me down because I don't want to play. This could be subject to location, as some have theorized.

Usually, I'd rather be on the stage. No moshing on the stage.


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Nuclear Vampire
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posted August 09, 2012 23:35     Profile for Nuclear Vampire   Email Nuclear Vampire     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I toally lol'ed at the Max Cavalera reference to "fock sheet op"
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Juan87
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posted August 10, 2012 01:40     Profile for Juan87   Email Juan87     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I was a teen when the whole thrash scene erupted, hell I couldn't even get into many clubs, so we would just have our own 'friendly violent fun' at a party or something. The first thrash show I went to (Slayer/Testament '90) my brother got kicked in the fucking head by an errant crowd surfer and was concussed. It all went downhill from there.

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