Post New Topic  Post A Reply
my profile | register | search | faq | forum home
  next oldest topic   next newest topic
»  VoivodFan   » Cosmic Drama   » Piggy's guitars

UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!    
Author Topic: Piggy's guitars
slaydesays
VoivodFan
Member # 911

posted December 13, 2006 02:09     Profile for slaydesays   Email slaydesays     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Ok. This is indeed a time waster but I thought I would list all of the guitars that I have seen in the hands of the master..
feel free to add any others that you can think of:

Black Liberatore w/ the red trim
Red Liberatore (in the live "Musique Plus" section of DVOD1)
Liberatore doubleneck
Black Les Paul in the "Clouds in My House" vid
Green Ibanez Universe 7-string
White strat in the Insect video?
Black Fender Strat
Sunburst Strat in "The Tower" vid
Cherry SG (Phobos era?)
White SG
Telecaster & Strat during "Self-Titled" recording sessions
The Aluminum guitar (forgot the maker)
Any others?


 |  IP: Logged
pppaaaüüülll
VoivodFan
Member # 13

posted December 13, 2006 03:46     Profile for pppaaaüüülll   Email pppaaaüüülll     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
post photographs of all of them please so that us not knowers will know also. plees

--------------------

trrrrr ta trrrrr ta trrrrr ta trrrrr ta trrrrr ta trrrrr
trrrrr ta trrrrr ta trrrrr ta trrrrr ta trrrrr ta trrrrr


 |  IP: Logged
Emlyn K Helicopter
VoivodFan
Member # 44

posted December 13, 2006 05:50     Profile for Emlyn K Helicopter   Email Emlyn K Helicopter     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Whatever he plays, he sounds like Piggy and no one else.

In our hearts he will always be playing that big black n' red spikey Liberatore!

--------------------

Der der der-der DER! Der der der-der DER! DER!


 |  IP: Logged
Maldororz
VoivodFan
Member # 186

posted December 13, 2006 08:54     Profile for Maldororz   Email Maldororz     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Good to see that Piggy was a Fender man in the studio! A Tele can provide such fat riffs, not just country twang!

The SG:

The aluminium guitar was a "Born To Rock":

The classic:

Another SG:

The Red Liberatore:

The Valvoline Strat:

The 7-strings Ibanez Universe:


 |  IP: Logged
Luna
VoivodFan
Member # 389

posted December 13, 2006 09:26     Profile for Luna   Email Luna     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
awesome! Thanks for the pictures.

--------------------

What the fuck is wrong with drinking tea?


 |  IP: Logged
Seeate
VoivodFan
Member # 480

posted December 13, 2006 16:50     Profile for Seeate   Email Seeate     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Here's some info on the oddball F4c 'nasa' guitar Piggy used. Born to Rock is a pretty cheesy name for a guitar brand - I can see why Denis put the alien head sticker over the company logo

Looks like he chose it for it's intergalactic look and robust design for touring.


http://borntorock.com/f4c.html


 |  IP: Logged
Nuclear Vampire
VoivodFan
Member # 20

posted December 13, 2006 17:44     Profile for Nuclear Vampire   Email Nuclear Vampire     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Does anyone know the specs on Piggy's Liberatore's? Type of pickups, body wood, neck scale, all that geeky guitar stuff. Blacky, I'm looking in your direction.

I wonder if Liberatore would condiser building exact replicas of the black V and the red Warlock? I'd sell my children for one of each.


Even if he won't, I will probably end up doing just that in time. That's why I want the specs.


 |  IP: Logged
St. Mike
VoivodFan
Member # 570

posted December 13, 2006 17:53     Profile for St. Mike   Email St. Mike     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Is there any guitarist here that might like to talk about the Gibson SG? Anyone have one? I always wanted one but thought they were a bit heavy. Then again, Angus Young always had one I think? He is a small guy like me. :-)

St.

--------------------

ARE YOU MORBID?


 |  IP: Logged
Seeate
VoivodFan
Member # 480

posted December 13, 2006 20:56     Profile for Seeate   Email Seeate     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by St. Mike:
Is there any guitarist here that might like to talk about the Gibson SG? Anyone have one? I always wanted one but thought they were a bit heavy. Then again, Angus Young always had one I think? He is a small guy like me. :-)

St.


They are a much lighter guitar than the Les Paul - thinner profile and double cutaways help. It also has a shorter neck than most Fenders etc, so probably a good guitar if you are not a large person

Soundwise they have that typical fat bottom humbucker goodness!

All round great rock geetar.


 |  IP: Logged
Seeate
VoivodFan
Member # 480

posted December 13, 2006 23:22     Profile for Seeate   Email Seeate     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
This is a classic Piggy Liberatore too!


 |  IP: Logged
Paulie 88
VoivodFan
Member # 775

posted December 14, 2006 01:54     Profile for Paulie 88   Email Paulie 88     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I saw the Negatron set live 3x. There was a white Strat (which I think is above w the Valvoline sticker) which was in the Negatron tuning, but there was also a wood-sunburst strat design, with a blonde Liberatore headstock, which was in a standard (albeit dropped) tuning. I had Piggy sign a pic I took of him with it, it's hard to see but in the bottom right corner he wrote "GREAT!" and signed it below that. Sorry for the crappy scan.

All the best,
PAULIE

Missing you Piggy!

--------------------

Voivoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood!
-----------------
DIMESLAND http://youtu.be/2LtFOX6JdVo


 |  IP: Logged
slaydesays
VoivodFan
Member # 911

posted December 14, 2006 02:09     Profile for slaydesays   Email slaydesays     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
That reminds me.. just curious, but I know Piggy used the same rig on DH, Nothingface, Angel Rat, and TOL (with those crazy guerilla modifications) .. but what about Negatron and Phobos? To me, those albums sound much more raw and unprocessed. (of course the chords and arrangement were him all the way)
 |  IP: Logged
slaydesays
VoivodFan
Member # 911

posted December 14, 2006 02:20     Profile for slaydesays   Email slaydesays     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
forgot one.. the Iceman!


 |  IP: Logged
Paulie 88
VoivodFan
Member # 775

posted December 14, 2006 02:25     Profile for Paulie 88   Email Paulie 88     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by slaydesays:
[QB]forgot one.. the Iceman!
QB]

Nice, a Paul Stanley model! (Inlays, trim)

Best,
PAULIE

--------------------

Voivoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood!
-----------------
DIMESLAND http://youtu.be/2LtFOX6JdVo


 |  IP: Logged
Maldororz
VoivodFan
Member # 186

posted December 14, 2006 08:49     Profile for Maldororz   Email Maldororz     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
About the SG, although it's a very good guitar (of course!), you may need to get used to the short neck. I can't. I'm a Fender guy, and I feel all weird when I play a Gibson.

If anyone has a pic of Piggy's Tele (studio pic?), I'd love to see it!


 |  IP: Logged
nothingface
VoivodFan
Member # 58

posted December 15, 2006 05:00     Profile for nothingface   Email nothingface     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Can't say I'm a real fan the Fender guitars, although I play a Jazz bass. I prefer the Gibson guitars since I've always been in 1 guitar bands and they tend to have a thicker sound. The only problem I've ever had with SGs is that they want to get out of tune constantly.
 |  IP: Logged
Simon6
VoivodFan
Member # 187

posted December 15, 2006 11:41     Profile for Simon6   Email Simon6     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Wow, I really couldn't find the name of those aluminium guitars. Thanks for posting.
I'm thinking about purchasing a Borntorock bass or maybe guitar.
Anyone made any experience with those instruments ?

Cheers

--------------------

What the...?


 |  IP: Logged
Hatröss
VoivodFan
Member # 7

posted December 15, 2006 18:30     Profile for Hatröss   Email Hatröss     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I would suspect that with the BornToRock guitar you dont have to worrie much about tone. Everything on those models have to deal with your pickups... If you go for one and buy it i would slap some Seymour Duncan bridge Invaders in there and you'll be good to go.

Out of all the guitars over the years and different models ect, there has not been much improvement made since 1957 and the fender stratocaster. The fender Strat is pretty much the "be all end all" in guitars (imo) Oh and the 'set-in' neck design of a gibson is inferior to that of a bolt-on strat. Also strats have a straight neck angle and gibsons are slanted back (if you prefer that kinda thing) i am not sure about the B.T.R guitars. The only improvement to the strat thru all the years has been a 'neck-thru' design on some of the spin off strats, which i myself love the idea, the only problem is they are slant-neck design too.

Play as many different guitars as you can before you make any purchases and see what fits ya best.


 |  IP: Logged
pendar
VoivodFan
Member # 409

posted December 15, 2006 21:29     Profile for pendar   Email pendar     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Did he record with the 7 string?
I apologise for my ignorance.

 |  IP: Logged
alicecooper
VoivodFan
Member # 204

posted December 16, 2006 00:18     Profile for alicecooper   Email alicecooper     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Well in 2003 after the Voivod show here in Mpls. I gave Piggy my lime green 1978 SG, (I'm still trying to contact Away to get it back) he said he was going to (and he did, as I spoke to him a few months latter at Ozzfest) deactivate the second volume and tone controls, He has both pickups controled by just the first vol and tone knobs. He said he loved SGs, and he loved the Dimarzo super distortion pickups that were in the guitar I gave him.
SG's are light, much more so than les Pauls or any other 2 Pickup Gibsons.

 |  IP: Logged
Emlyn K Helicopter
VoivodFan
Member # 44

posted December 16, 2006 05:26     Profile for Emlyn K Helicopter   Email Emlyn K Helicopter     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Right. Sorry, but...

quote:
Originally posted by Hatross:
Out of all the guitars over the years and different models ect, there has not been much improvement made since 1957 and the fender stratocaster..

1952. Jackson Soloist, PRS Custom, Ibanez JEM, Parker Fly...

The fender Strat is pretty much the "be all end all" in guitars (imo)

The last person I heard making that kind of remark was a drummer.

Oh and the 'set-in' neck design of a gibson is inferior to that of a bolt-on strat.

They sound different and the Bolt-on is cheaper to fix if you break it. Otherwise one design is not inherently superior to the other. I have a bunch of both types, as well as a neck-thru. They sound different. Neck-thru sounds better to me, but if it breaks I have to buy a whole new guitar.

Also strats have a straight neck angle and gibsons are slanted back

Strats were designed to be mass-produced cheaply. Slanted headstocks on Gibsons increase string tension and therefore sustain - offsetting the shorter scale length. Gives you a warmer, fatter tone without floppy strings in other words. Also the strings hit the tuners at or close to 90 degrees on a slanted headstock (rather than at awkward angles on a Strat) which inproves tuning stability.

If you want weedy country tones that are about as metal as a yogutt pot then go with the strat. Although I do like my strat, it does good weedy tones.

geek mode off.

--------------------

Der der der-der DER! Der der der-der DER! DER!


 |  IP: Logged
Hatröss
VoivodFan
Member # 7

posted December 16, 2006 08:38     Profile for Hatröss   Email Hatröss     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Yeah no use in starting any guitarguments over which is the best, afterall it's the player behind an instrument that makes the difference. But you can put a humbucker in a fender strat in about 10min or buy a fat strat allready loaded.

On the other hand a shorter scale length i though raised your pitch and tone, not deepen and warm it. Baritone necks are 28'in scale length as with most 7-string guitars the scale length is longer. Since when is one concerned about sustain when it comes to playing metal ?

Hey man Jimi played a strat...


 |  IP: Logged
Luna
VoivodFan
Member # 389

posted December 16, 2006 10:14     Profile for Luna   Email Luna     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
guitarguments

haha

--------------------

What the fuck is wrong with drinking tea?


 |  IP: Logged
Maldororz
VoivodFan
Member # 186

posted December 18, 2006 09:15     Profile for Maldororz   Email Maldororz     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
My next guitar:

Fender Telecaster Deluxe '72

Like a Les Paul (two humbuckers, two volumes/tone knobs, 3-way switch), with a Strat neck. Best of both worlds.


 |  IP: Logged

All times are ET  

Post New Topic  Post A Reply Close Topic    Move Topic    Delete Topic next oldest topic   next newest topic
Hop To:

Contact Us | VoivodFan

Powered by Infopop Corporation
Ultimate Bulletin Board 6.04