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NightSod
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posted September 11, 2006 05:28     Profile for NightSod   Email NightSod     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Courtesy of Mnsr. Helicoptor.
"This is really anal. Much more fun to debate the worst metal album! Same band, anyone?"

I vaguely remeber asking the same thing back in the day on voivod.com...
Mine haven't really changed since then, except to say that I am very old and can't clearly recall two of them:

1. "Thor", a 7" I had called "When Gods Collide". Beautiful, sub-Manowar viking metal.

2. For that matter, Anything by "Manowar". I still worry how listenable I find them - I think what wins me over is that ernest sincerity possessed of the truly, truly stupid.

3. It was titled something like "Willkommen nach dem Krankenhaus". (I leant it out and it never came back.) Amazing stuff, but I only remember an "I cry, I die." rhyming scheme in heavily accented German.

4. A well below par thrash album that contained the legend "I deficate before the holy one."
I think that's still my favourite lyric.

5. Were it not for the title track, "Priest's" "Turbo.". Very, very nasty indeed.


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pppaaaüüülll
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posted September 11, 2006 06:16     Profile for pppaaaüüülll   Email pppaaaüüülll     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Before someone else does: The same band who delivered that masterpiece "Monotheist" delivered this joke named "Cold lake".

Looking at the back of the lp makes my laugh everytime.

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NightSod
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posted September 11, 2006 06:25     Profile for NightSod   Email NightSod     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by paul:
Before someone else does: The same band who delivered that masterpiece "Monotheist" delivered this joke named "Cold lake".

I liked "'Chewey' Orchards", but yeah that's a difficult album to defend.


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Mezcalhead
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posted September 11, 2006 06:40     Profile for Mezcalhead   Email Mezcalhead     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Could it be that the band (CF)who created the genre's best piece of music also had created its worse??? I can't really think of anything uglier than Cold Lake. It was just such a major left turn for a band like CF.
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Skul
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posted September 11, 2006 07:09     Profile for Skul   Email Skul     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I happen to like most of Cold Lake. Just dont look at the band's picture on it.
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Maldororz
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posted September 11, 2006 09:06     Profile for Maldororz   Email Maldororz     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Post-Puppets Metallica anyone? You know it's all a Load of crap...
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Delightful Little Capuchin Monkey
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posted September 11, 2006 10:53     Profile for Delightful Little Capuchin Monkey   Email Delightful Little Capuchin Monkey     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Maldororz:
Post-Puppets Metallica anyone? You know it's all a Load of crap...

My favorite Metallica album is Justice, dodgy production or not.


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Emlyn K Helicopter
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posted September 11, 2006 11:03     Profile for Emlyn K Helicopter   Email Emlyn K Helicopter     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by warcorpse:
Five stages to liking a shitty record.
(by warcorpse)

Excellent post, sir. However this assumes we're talking about bad records from bands you like, rather than straight-up bad metal records.

quote:
Originally posted by Morgoth:
2. For that matter, Anything by "Manowar". I still worry how listenable I find them - I think what wins me over is that ernest sincerity possessed of the truly, truly stupid.

Now this grasps the very essence of shit metal albums! I simply cannot get enough shit metal, this is why I scour second hand record shops to unearth such gems as "Living Death" or "Steel Vengeance". The often astonishingly bad album artwork and laughable photo-montages are as much a joy as the wasp-in-a-beercan guitars or the crap-echo-at-100% vocals.

Ah. The earnest, pure, cack-handed delivery of old metal! Fuck Pro-tools.

Look, it just seems that arguing over which of the ten or so metal albums is the best is useless. Whereas this is educational!

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NightSod
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posted September 11, 2006 12:15     Profile for NightSod   Email NightSod     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Emlyn K Helicopter:

Look, it just seems that arguing over which of the ten or so metal albums is the best is useless. Whereas this is educational![/QB]


Yes!
For us it was an unoficial competition. We'd flaunt them like badges of honour.
I still remember the excitement when my mate showed me his "Nitro" album.
It looked horrible.
The guitarist called himself "Michael Angelo". A good sign.
The music didn't disapoint either. Well, only because we wanted it to be horrible - and oh, by my giant arse, it was certainly that.

You know? More: "so bad it's good" ethic; bands who take themselves seriously that REALLY shouldn't bother, but you have to admire the sincerity?


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Slaytanic
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posted September 11, 2006 13:15     Profile for Slaytanic   Email Slaytanic     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by warcorpse:
Keep in mind getting to stage five can take years, sometimes decades.
I never make it to stage five.

I don't remember ever getting past stage two. It takes a lot of effort to survive until stage four, so here goes my respect, mayor.

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Nuclear Vampire
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posted September 11, 2006 13:34     Profile for Nuclear Vampire   Email Nuclear Vampire     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Morgoth_Mothman:
Yes!
For us it was an unoficial competition. We'd flaunt them like badges of honour.
I still remember the excitement when my mate showed me his "Nitro" album.
It looked horrible.
The guitarist called himself "Michael Angelo". A good sign.
The music didn't disapoint either. Well, only because we wanted it to be horrible - and oh, by my giant arse, it was certainly that.

You know? More: "so bad it's good" ethic; bands who take themselves seriously that REALLY shouldn't bother, but you have to admire the sincerity?



Michael Angelo Baito. King of over-the-top shred. Or so he thinks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYqhWtYcMqA&mode=related&search=


Nitro? Quite possibly the worst thing in music ever, but to me, anything the general populace usually terms "hair metal" is not metal at all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4coXyznC0c

Btw, I know a guy who has one of those double guitars at another forum. It actually comes apart to make 2 separate guitars. He bought it off MAB himself.


I've come to the ACCEPTANCE stage with a few of the worst stinkers in metal. Turbo, Virtual XI, Load, but not Cold Lake. I've never been brave enough to actually go into a store and buy a copy, so I haven't had the years of slowly growing accustomed to and eventually accepting it.


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Head Villain
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posted September 11, 2006 14:51     Profile for Head Villain   Email Head Villain     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Crowforce, anyone?

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String em up


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Emlyn K Helicopter
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posted September 11, 2006 14:57     Profile for Emlyn K Helicopter   Email Emlyn K Helicopter     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I ought to make a distiction here between low budget, passionate but completly hopelessly awful metal albums, and bland major label songwriting-by-numbers over-produced slick Photoshopped Pro-Tools'd.. er... Nu-metal albums.

Ok, I'm over 30.

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Hypercube
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posted September 11, 2006 16:38     Profile for Hypercube   Email Hypercube     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Manowar about their new album:

"Thus the Gods Of War has grown into a massive, multifaceted concept, similar to Wagner’s Ring Cycle, this is a massive project of epic proportions."

Questions?


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Hypercube
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posted September 11, 2006 16:43     Profile for Hypercube   Email Hypercube     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Morgoth_Mothman:
For that matter, Anything by "Manowar". I still worry how listenable I find them - I think what wins me over is that ernest sincerity possessed of the truly, truly stupid.

Indeed. I got goosebumps from their german version of "Heart Of Steel" - "Herz aus Stahl".


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Head Villain
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posted September 11, 2006 16:48     Profile for Head Villain   Email Head Villain     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Ring Cycle?
This conjures up an unfortunate mental image with manowar in mind

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String em up


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NightSod
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posted September 12, 2006 04:44     Profile for NightSod   Email NightSod     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hypercube:
Indeed. I got goosebumps from their german version of "Heart Of Steel" - "Herz aus Stahl".

Wow. There's a treat awaiting me then!

Another classic of the Genre was Doro Pesch's
acoustic cover of "Breakin' the Law". So breathtakingly witless, so utterly missing the entire point of the original it somehow, almost surpasses it. Starting gently, (ala. Nothing Else Matters) it appears to be incable of deeper idiocy, *bam*, then the string arrangements begin, and just as you felt you were already drowning - wait till the big 'rock-out' section kicks in....

So, EKH, I think you can have high production values on turds, but they're still turds, and so still worthy of consideration.

Anyway, show us yours!


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Maldororz
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posted September 12, 2006 09:23     Profile for Maldororz   Email Maldororz     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Not really "bad" per se, but kind of funny: Mercyful Fate's "Devil's Eyes" always make me smile like an idiot. This is disco metal, people, DISCO METAL! With KD's high voice, and that disco groove, I get all pumped up listening to this. My dream would be to have it played in a disco club, that would be awesome!
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