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El Indio
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posted October 10, 2002 12:44     Profile for El Indio   Email El Indio     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Yes, I admit it... Sometimes... I like to... Read... (GASP!!!)BOOKS!!! Recently Noitall posted a message about some book about geniuses which she recently read (why does this not surprise me?)which got me to thinking about opening a new thread devoted to cool books which people have read... Biographies, fiction, true crime, horror, schlock, gonzo journalism, medical encyclopedias, whatever! I'm always looking for a good book to read! What have I read lately? Well...

"Lost Illusions" by Honore De Balzac (This book scared the fucking shit out of me when I first read it shortly after my attempt at living in Vancouver when I was but a young lad trying to relate with "big" city life. Later on when I became a drunkard I realized that this book is also quite hilarious!)

"The Age of Uncertainty - A history of economic ideas and their consequences" by John Kenneth Galbraith (This guy is unique: an economist with a sense of humour! This book is a very polished historical comedy!)

And now two books for Noitall:
"The School of Genius" by Anthony Storr (I just know that she'll be interested in this one! )

"The Frenzy of Renown - Fame and It's History" by Leo Brandy (In this crazy fame and celebrity obsessed world there is surprisingly little intelligent documentation about it! Here is one small yet brightly lit light at the end of the tunnel!)

So what am I reading now? Dare I post this!?! Oh what the heck...

"Lost Victories - The war memoirs of Hitler's most brilliant General" an autobiography by none other than Field Marshal Erich Von Manstein (This guy was a military genius who was responsible for coming up with the invasion plan which was directly responsible for the fall of France during the opening days of world war 2! Manstein had a very unique perspective in regards to his views of various major important historical events during this war and how and why they happened as well as how Hitler related with things. Very thought provoking as well as scary in places! Tis a good thing Hitler's personal physician accidentally(?) got him dependant on amphetamines in his final days or he may very well have listened to Manstein and his brilliant ideas!)

Okay I know I'm a strange fellow but the way I see things, heavy books inevitably leads to.. HEAVY MUSIC!!!


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nia
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posted October 10, 2002 15:33     Profile for nia   Email nia     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hey Indio, I will check those titles out. Lately I've been really hooked on Atlantic Monthly magazine, especially the stories on the World Trade Centre disaster and recovery. A book I'm planning on picking up soon is Jean Verdon's "Night in the Middle Ages" that covers medieval life from crime to sexuality to architecture and religion.
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Tangento
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posted October 10, 2002 19:06     Profile for Tangento   Email Tangento     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Balzac has worked under at least one pseudonym.
Just last month, he wrote the monthly newsletter for "The Slave Pit",
which is a publication for the Intergalactic Human Disposal System known to us as GWAR.
In these brilliant works, he signs
"BalSac the Jaws of Death".
A crafty fellow!

hmm... I will have to seek out these other titles you spoke so highly of.


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Mezcalhead
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posted October 10, 2002 20:11     Profile for Mezcalhead   Email Mezcalhead     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I've been reading only one book lately. John Toland's bio of Hitler(funny you should mention your Nazi book Indio). Did Manstein feel these "events" occurred due to astrology? I know the Nazis were really into that. If you think that guy was nuts check out Himmler. Now that's a case study. He thought he was the reincarnate of Heinrich I. Did any of you see that Michael Woods documentary on Nazi mythology recently? Incredible shit. If not, check it out. He directs great historical documentaries. They actually believed that the Aryans came from Atlantis. Actually the real Aryans were a bunch of illiterate goat herders who came from the steppes of Russia and invaded India creating the caste system( to control the population cause they were a bit outnumbered). Totally amazing how the Nazis completely fabricated the history of the Germanic peoples.

Has anyone heard about the new Lemmy autobio? Now that should be good stuff.


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satan
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posted October 20, 2002 20:13     Profile for satan   Email satan     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Noitall read this Book a while back.
I happened upon it while browsing at Half Price Books this weekend.
I'm just into the 3rd Chapter, but this Book is killer!
Lots of great Photos.
The ones of Celtic Frost & Slayer crack me up!

:::


Since the beginning of the 1990s, nearly 100 churches have been torched or desecrated by adherents of Black Metal, the most extreme form of underground music on the planet.

In an escalating unholy war, Black Metal bands and their obsessive fans have left a grim legacy of suicide, murder, and terrorism spreading from Norway to Germany, Russia, America, and beyond.

Based on face-to-face interviews with leaders of the genre, both in prison and at large, Lords of Chaos explores a previously uncharted network of pathological musicians and their followers. The book not only uncovers the deeds perpetrated by Black Metalers, but also the spiritual beliefs that inspired them, the media mishandling of their stories, and the still-unfolding ramifications on society.

Shot through with hundreds of illustrations and photos, Lords of Chaos also features interviews with priests, occultists, theologians and police officers, as well as leaders of demonic bands who believe the greater evil spawns the greatest glory.

:::

Check out the Publisher Website:
www.feralhouse.com

They have a lot of interresting stuff in there!


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NightSod
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posted October 21, 2002 08:27     Profile for NightSod   Email NightSod     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Asd we seem to be discussing interesting books about outsized personalities...

Just finished "The Quest for Wilhelm Reich",
a Austrian student of Freuds who became embroiled in just about every major event and with every major personality of the time.
His ideas were outlandish but this book seeks make sense of them and place them in a less hysterical context. (search for 'orgone' energy)

Also, "The Queen's Conjuror" by Benjamin Woolley. Fantastic, this one. It's the life of John Dee, a confidant of Queen Elibeth I of England. A genius of his age really, he was typical of the scholars of his age - voracious intellectual apetite and fascination with the mystical/mathmatical/profane. It's also a great knockabout romp covering most of 16th century Europe.

There is stuff on the net about both these characters.

Any other "outsider" books people read and can recommend?


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space monger
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posted October 21, 2002 13:47     Profile for space monger   Email space monger     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I am reading Dean Koontz 'Watchers' right now, about govt. laboratory experiments and complications that can arise. One character is 'The Outsider'. Enjoyable read that doesn't give me a headache either.
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Layla's Dad
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posted October 21, 2002 14:07     Profile for Layla's Dad   Email Layla's Dad     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Just started "Gotterdammerung - 1945:
Germany's Last Stand in the East" by
Russ Schneider. The book covers pretty
much as the title implicates. The end of
WW2 for Germany as the Russians hammer
away at Budapest, Courland (Latvia).
Recently finished "None but the Braves"
by Tom Glavine. Yea. I'm a big Atlanta
Braves fan that gets upset every October.
Also, "Run to the Hills", the Maiden story
by Malcom Dome (I think). I've read that
one three times now.

Looking forward to getting my hands on
that "Lords of Chaos" & that Lemmy bio.
Also, Mezcal, about that Hitler bio by
Toland: Have you got both volumes of
that? My dad come up from Florida last
month & give me vol. 2 of that bio. Have
you got both volumes? The one I have
starts at Chapter 18. He also give me
Toland's account of The Battle of the
Bulge.


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Mr. Phobia
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posted October 21, 2002 16:49     Profile for Mr. Phobia   Email Mr. Phobia     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
ok, i haven't read any books for a while except i reread two of my stephen king books
the short story ones: skeleton crew and night shift because they are a lot weirder than his long drawn-own out novels

but, i will recommend whitley strieber's communion for an interesting read
this is nonfiction telling of his real life story of being abducted by aliens his whole freakin' life
strange
(he also wrote wolfen)

on the subject of the holocaust:
you gotta read about josef mengele
he is the angel of death that slayer wrote about
all those experiments in those lyrics are real and took place in "the zoo" at auschwitz


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Mezcalhead
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posted October 21, 2002 17:34     Profile for Mezcalhead   Email Mezcalhead     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Layla's Dad:
Just started "Gotterdammerung - 1945:
Germany's Last Stand in the East" by
Russ Schneider. The book covers pretty
much as the title implicates. The end of
WW2 for Germany as the Russians hammer
away at Budapest, Courland (Latvia).
Recently finished "None but the Braves"
by Tom Glavine. Yea. I'm a big Atlanta
Braves fan that gets upset every October.
Also, "Run to the Hills", the Maiden story
by Malcom Dome (I think). I've read that
one three times now.

Looking forward to getting my hands on
that "Lords of Chaos" & that Lemmy bio.
Also, Mezcal, about that Hitler bio by
Toland: Have you got both volumes of
that? My dad come up from Florida last
month & give me vol. 2 of that bio. Have
you got both volumes? The one I have
starts at Chapter 18. He also give me
Toland's account of The Battle of the
Bulge.


Vol. 2???? Could we be talking about a different book? What I have is just one bio. Unless you have an older edition that was split in two volumes. Which is possible since this bastard I have is huge. Hmmm...I need to investigate this. I didn't know you liked military history LD. Cool. He's an awesome writer and I'd like to read his account of the Battle of the Bulge.

I don't know if I'd have the stomach for any Mengle info. Himmler, maybe, but not Mengle.


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Slaytanic
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posted October 21, 2002 18:10     Profile for Slaytanic   Email Slaytanic     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Phobia:
(...)you gotta read about josef mengele
he is the angel of death that slayer wrote about
all those experiments in those lyrics are real and took place in "the zoo" at auschwitz

He spent his last days "hidden" on a house in the beach, some 30 miles from my hometown, in a city called Bertioga. But a lot of WWII criminals lived in Argentina, which seemed to be their favourite place to hide, why I dunno.

I'm reading a Victor Hugo book right now, its title in Portuguese is "Trabalhadores do mar" (Workers of the sea?). I'm still starting, but it already seems great (what it probably is).


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Layla's Dad
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posted October 21, 2002 20:43     Profile for Layla's Dad   Email Layla's Dad     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Mezcal: The first chapter of 'this' book
is chapter 18. It's called "Crystal Night
November 1938-March 1939". The page
before it says: Part 6 "To the Very Brink
of Boldness". Does any of that ring a
bell or look familiar? I'm leaning toward
your idea of the book also being distributed
as a big one volume. I can tell you that
dad picked mine up at a flea market on
the way up, as he knows i'm a history buff.
It's old looking but still in one piece.
The "Battle of the Bulge" still has a library
binder on it. Tell you what, give me a
couple of months to finish the one I'm
reading now and "The Battle of the Bulge"
and I'll turn you on to "...Bulge".

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Mezcalhead
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posted October 22, 2002 06:13     Profile for Mezcalhead   Email Mezcalhead     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Layla's Dad:
Mezcal: The first chapter of 'this' book
is chapter 18. It's called "Crystal Night
November 1938-March 1939". The page
before it says: Part 6 "To the Very Brink
of Boldness". Does any of that ring a
bell or look familiar? I'm leaning toward
your idea of the book also being distributed
as a big one volume. I can tell you that
dad picked mine up at a flea market on
the way up, as he knows i'm a history buff.
It's old looking but still in one piece.
The "Battle of the Bulge" still has a library
binder on it. Tell you what, give me a
couple of months to finish the one I'm
reading now and "The Battle of the Bulge"
and I'll turn you on to "...Bulge".

Well, we've solved this little mystery. Yep, you've got the second volume. You need to get that first vol. buddy. Good stuff. What I really found interesting was when and why Hitler started hating Jews so much. No one event turned him against them. He was really influenced from all the nasty anti-semitic newspapers in circulation. The doctor that took care of his mother before she died was Jewish. Hitler never forgot this and saved his ass from the concentration camps.


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Cockroach
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posted October 23, 2002 18:07     Profile for Cockroach   Email Cockroach     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I'm reading the Dune-sequence right now, it's as mind-stretchin as the music of Voivod Highly recommended!
Most of you are luckier than me, here i cannot get any other works of Frank Herbert

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nia
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posted November 25, 2002 13:35     Profile for nia   Email nia     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote

I just bought the VICE GUIDE TO SEX AND DRUGS AND ROCK AND ROLL - a compilation of some of the best articles from VICE Magazine. Sometimes VICE pisses me off because the writing is Jackass-style - they never back off from offending anyone and everyone. This book would make a great xmas prez, especially because it has the article "was Jesus a Fag?" Happy Birthday Baby Jesus.

quote:
The arguements are compelling. Jesus was, after all, a thirty-three-year-old "confirmed bachelor" at a time when even the religious elite observed Jewish traditions of marriage and family.

There are chapters on Sex, Drugs, Rock n' Roll (obviously) plus Crime, Special People & Education. Then there's the VICE guide to French Canadians.
quote:
If you tally up the pros and cons, you will see that French people are in fact better than us. Their charming joie de vivre has made them into some of the best cooks, comedians, and lovers Canada has to offer. But let's not forget that they still suck at tons of other stuff. Take their outifts for example. Or how about some of their public art?

French Canadians are stuck in the mid-'70's with right-on guitar bands and long flowing hair but they're also grasped desperately for the year 2000 with more pairs of Zany Zappers and silver rollerblades than you will find anywhere else in Canada. The most characteristic thing about Frogs, however, is that they don't give a damn. If you look closely at all of the descriptions below, you'll see they all come back to the French not giving a damn. And that is precisely why the English hate them so.

Here at VICE, we've managed to perfectly evaluate an entire culture in a matter of paragraphs. Before you buy your next poutine or bang spoons on your knees again, you should take a look at this guide and learn about the culture these activities came from.


On a side note, I met VICE editor Suroosh Alvi years before VICE and his heroin "problem," when his only claim to fame was being Dave Pirner's (from Soul Asylum. Remember them? Okay, do you remember that he dated Winona Ryder then? lol) neighbour. Also, Alvi is the one and only person I know who was ever mugged in Vancouver.

Alvi was recently on CBC television's ">PLAY" with fellow editor Gavin McInnes promoting their book. I forgave them for going on this piece of shit show (honestly, it makes me embarrassed to be Canadian), because McInnes mentioned a past VICE article on how fucking horrible host Jian Ghomeshi's former band MOXY FRUVOUS was.

http://www.viceland.com/book.php


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guidon
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posted November 25, 2002 16:50     Profile for guidon   Email guidon     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Have it for some time now, but still read it regularly. 'Get in the Van - On the road with Black Flag' by Henry Rollins.

It's an almost day-to-day report of the 6 years Henry spent as the singer of Black Flag. Sometimes funny as hell, sometimes just sad the way they were treated by fans, promotors and hall-owners...


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