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blacky
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posted August 23, 2019 10:32     Profile for blacky   Email blacky     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I'm trying to figure out which of the master tapes the band had lost, in the worst case it could be, Nothingface, Angel Rat and Outer Limits albums. I know this is old news.

UMG did received apparently $150 million from insurance claim. But they are still not certain which master has been lost...What a mess LOL


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blacky
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posted August 23, 2019 10:57     Profile for blacky   Email blacky     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Here a link that I just found, if you find something else please post it here. I have written to UMG to find out more but I don't have much hope in an honest answer...does this sound familiar, how the music business...

Universal Studio Tour


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blacky
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posted August 23, 2019 10:59     Profile for blacky   Email blacky     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
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blacky
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posted August 23, 2019 11:13     Profile for blacky   Email blacky     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
A simple question deserve a simple answer, if tapes were not destroy in the fire, where are they then?
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blacky
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posted August 23, 2019 17:36     Profile for blacky   Email blacky     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
It is a so confusing, cause they only talk about master recording tapes. Which is normally the master tapes so just a stereo master, but what about the original multitracks tapes were those tapes also in the vault. I know for Nothingface Glen did make a duplicate of the digital multitracks tapes but where are those tapes now. Not easy to figure out when they can't even provide you with statements on the account.
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blacky
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posted August 27, 2019 10:17     Profile for blacky   Email blacky     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Waiting answer from UMG still, but from an other source it seem that all is lost for the 3 albums and that include master tapes and multitrack tapes. That really is a bad news, no possibilities now to do any remixes ever. Poor Angel Rat, I always wanted to remix that one, to give it a proper sound, the sound that the recording deserve, but now game is over :-(
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posted August 29, 2019 10:34     Profile for h   Email h     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Ahhh maaaan.... a remix of AR would be interesting! Wonder if it was an insurance job!
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blacky
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posted September 03, 2019 14:41     Profile for blacky   Email blacky     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Inside job, don't think so, unless some crazy person did it, but imagine half a million songs lost, they apparently got 150 millions from Universal studio, but nothing for the artists, seem totally unfair. But also since VV always been in the red with MCA this mean we wouldn't get anything other then taking it off on the recouped. Anyway I'm still waiting for an answer. It's all very slow and complicated dealing with label. But I won't give up, basically every penny that is own to me, I wanted it, just a question of principle, I suppose. Some people will argue that I should just move on and forget about the pass. I understand and agree to a certain extend, life is life hey! But somethings can't be forgotten, I didn't expect in the 80's to get rich and famous with the band, perhaps other did and I respect that. Today it is a fight to the last man standing right! j/k....to the death! It is my rights after all. Like posting on this forum, anybody can and people should give their opinion. I do. Cheers Harry, miss you!
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hexonut
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posted September 04, 2019 13:04     Profile for hexonut   Email hexonut     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I used to have lots to say on the matter of "labels are..." but I would prefer to save my breath this time. Just keeping my fingers crossed that you succeed in getting things right.
Get over it, but at the same time, get things done. That's the 'tude, dude!

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blacky
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posted September 10, 2019 09:38     Profile for blacky   Email blacky     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hexonut:
I used to have lots to say on the matter of "labels are..." but I would prefer to save my breath this time. Just keeping my fingers crossed that you succeed in getting things right.
Get over it, but at the same time, get things done. That's the 'tude, dude!

No No man, let the cat out of the bag, we want to know!!!


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hexonut
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posted September 13, 2019 10:34     Profile for hexonut   Email hexonut     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Copyracketeering is a menace to society. 'nuff said.

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posted September 13, 2019 17:17     Profile for X-D   Email X-D     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Fingers crossed that the proper tapes turn up ok! I would kill for LP reissues of these three albums!

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blacky
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posted October 22, 2019 14:09     Profile for blacky   Email blacky     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hi guys, I finally received an answer last week in regard of that incident.

Hi Jean-Yves,

I hope you’re well. Many thanks for your patience as we worked through the vault research to determine if any Voivod recording were lost.
Here are the findings of the research:

We have 29 assets in our archives related to the performances of Voivod.
No audio or video assets were lost in the fire.
We did identify some artwork based on an old index that may have been affected by the fire. However, this material may simply have been disposed of in the regular course of business as it appears to be mostly for sales solicitations, advertisements, cassette inserts and CD labels.

I hope this info is helpful, please let me know if you have any questions

Thanks

Pat


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blacky
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posted October 23, 2019 14:17     Profile for blacky   Email blacky     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Ok here the super latest news on this whole saga.

"All of the master tapes would be stored at the underground facility in Pennsylvania, in temperature and humidity controlled vaults."

So we have to trust our record company, always!!!

Here is a very cool article about this whole affair ::
The Day the Music Burned


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blacky
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posted October 23, 2019 15:41     Profile for blacky   Email blacky     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
That's where all our master should be...ok I'm driving there now to pick them up!

a limestone mine in Pennsylvania


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blacky
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posted November 08, 2019 13:56     Profile for blacky   Email blacky     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Good news I have them all here now, Safe and sound. Thanks to the greatest record company on Earth... no seriously, they could have just lied...

quote:
Originally posted by blacky:
That's where all our master should be...ok I'm driving there now to pick them up!

a limestone mine in Pennsylvania



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posted November 08, 2019 21:32     Profile for nothingface   Email nothingface     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Best news I've heard in a while. Very happy for you and the band's legacy.

To The Death, Blacky. Congratulations.


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JUDGE FARGO
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posted November 22, 2019 00:38     Profile for JUDGE FARGO   Email JUDGE FARGO     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Thanks for the update, that's a relief. At least there's still hope for a possible remix/remaster ... some day.
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blacky
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posted November 25, 2019 14:14     Profile for blacky   Email blacky     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JUDGE FARGO:
Thanks for the update, that's a relief. At least there's still hope for a possible remix/remaster ... some day.

Yeap Angel Rat should be remixed. What you guys think? When I did the very quick remaster of the demo a while back before putting it available to anyone, I though that the whole album should have sounded like that and it is still possible. Voivod has never been in my book a clean cut band you know! LOL

When we work on Target Earth, Century Media ask us if we would like to work with Sanford, I was more then please, cause I knew that he would do a dirty more obscure mix and that is pretty much what he did, although I would have like to be even more nasty, but the other guys in the band had a say (of course) and they were sort of scare of a too extreme approach. Their new album is just the proof of that, it's like night and day between the two, I'm not even talking musically which to me is simply a other regular band type of writing, but the production is lacking originality and it does not sound very Voivodish to me, I don't like it. They did better works in the 90's but that was Piggy, Banane is simply emulating musically, he was better doing his own band, also I find the drumming boring like hell, but that what Away has been doing for over 25 years anyway. When you don't create music it is hard to be worthy!


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Nazard
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posted November 25, 2019 14:42     Profile for Nazard   Email Nazard     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I think we all will be happy for getting an opportunity to listen a proper remix of Angel Rat someday. But I am personally concerned about one question:

Does this master tapes contains material, that was cut from the final mix? Like some of the lead guitar parts and solos?


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blacky
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posted November 28, 2019 14:57     Profile for blacky   Email blacky     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
There is one extra song, and yes perhaps some solos that didn't endup in the final mix, but I'm not certain simply because I was not there for the mix of the album, I had already left the band. I did have major objection in having Mr. Brown mixing the album, simply because I felt he didn't understand the sound of the band at the time. But the other guys did not feel the same. So the official mix was in my view tame by lack of imagination. Voivod is a Noisy band, not a Billboard type of band. But that is history. Perhaps one day I will be able to remix it, I certainly would like to try.
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Paulie 88
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posted December 28, 2019 03:03     Profile for Paulie 88   Email Paulie 88     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Remix please and thank you! Make that album METAL, not the glossy disappointment we've been forced to try to enjoy!

Of course, if the "powers that be" didn't agree to it, it would be interesting even if it were accidentally leaked onto the internet.

Merry Christmas / Happy new year one and all!

All the best,
PAULIE

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blacky
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posted September 26, 2022 20:46     Profile for blacky   Email blacky     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
It was a joke.....

quote:
Originally posted by blacky:
Good news I have them all here now, Safe and sound. Thanks to the greatest record company on Earth... no seriously, they could have just lied...

[QUOTE]Originally posted by blacky:
[qb]That's where all our master should be...ok I'm driving there now to pick them up!

a limestone mine in Pennsylvania


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blacky
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posted November 06, 2022 01:37     Profile for blacky   Email blacky     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Oh boy I realize that my joke end up in the Voivod Wiki, that's so funny! Also have you, guys seen the whole VV wiki, what's wrong with the picture, it is so badly writen, someone have took control and screwed the whole page, in french it's even worst.
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