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K
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posted August 27, 2004 14:53     Profile for K   Email K     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
George W. Bush came to the presidency promising prosperity, peace, and humility. Instead, Bush has spawned record federal budget deficits, launched an unnecessary war, and made America the most hated nation in the world. Bush is expanding federal power and stretching prerogatives in almost every area that captures his fancy. Though Bush continually invokes freedom to sanctify himself and his policies, Bush freedom is based on boundless trust in the righteousness of the rulers and all their actions.

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The Bush Betrayal


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posted September 03, 2004 07:50     Profile for Simon6   Email Simon6     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
C'mon man, the world is a safer place now, what do you want more ? MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHARRR..................................

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posted September 03, 2004 14:52     Profile for K   Email K     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
This is posted for all the times Warcorpse says that Kerry flip-flops on things.
Dont you know, oh WC, that they are BOTH liars?
This is not so much about flip-flopping as it is many things.
Sorry for the long post.

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Bush By Numbers - Four
Years Of Double Standards
By Graydon Carter
The Independent - UK
9-3-4

1 - Number of Bush administration public statements on National security issued between 20 January 2001 and 10 September 2001 that mentioned al-Qa'ida.

104 - Number of Bush administration public statements on National security and defence in the same period that mentioned Iraq or Saddam Hussein.

101 - Number of Bush administration public statements on National security and defence in the same period that mentioned missile defence.

65 - Number of Bush administration public statements on National security and defence in the same period that mentioned weapons of mass destruction.

0 - Number of times Bush mentioned Osama bin Laden in his three State of the Union addresses.

73 - Number of times that Bush mentioned terrorism or terrorists in his three State of the Union addresses.

83 - Number of times Bush mentioned Saddam, Iraq, or regime (as in change) in his three State of the Union addresses.

$1m - Estimated value of a painting the Bush Presidential Library in College Station, Texas, received from Prince Bandar, Saudi Arabia's ambassador to the United States and Bush family friend.

0 - Number of times Bush mentioned Saudi Arabia in his three State of the Union addresses.

1,700 - Percentage increase between 2001 and 2002 of Saudi Arabian spending on public relations in the United States.

79 - Percentage of the 11 September hijackers who came from Saudi Arabia.

3 - Number of 11 September hijackers whose entry visas came through special US-Saudi "Visa Express" programme.

140 - Number of Saudis, including members of the Bin Laden family, evacuated from United States almost immediately after 11 September.

14 - Number of Immigration and Naturalisation Service (INS) agents assigned to track down 1,200 known illegal immigrants in the United States from countries where al-Qa'ida is active.

$3m - Amount the White House was willing to grant the 9/11 Commission to investigate the 11 September attacks.

$0 - Amount approved by George Bush to hire more INS special agents.

$10m - Amount Bush cut from the INS's existing terrorism budget.

$50m - Amount granted to the commission that looked into the Columbia space shuttle crash.

$5m - Amount a 1996 federal commission was given to study legalised gambling.

7 - Number of Arabic linguists fired by the US army between mid-August and mid-October 2002 for being gay.

George Bush: Military man

1972 - Year that Bush walked away from his pilot duties in the Texas National Guard, Nearly two years before his six-year obligation was up.

$3,500 - Reward a group of veterans offered in 2000 for anyone who could confirm Bush's Alabama guard service.

600-700 - Number of guardsmen who were in Bush's unit during that period.

0 - Number of guardsmen from that period who came forward with information about Bush's guard service.

0 - Number of minutes that President Bush, Vice-President Dick Cheney, the Defence Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, the assistant Defence Secretary, Paul Wolfowitz, the former chairman of the Defence Policy Board, Richard Perle, and the White House Chief of Staff, Karl Rove the main proponents of the war in Iraq served in combat (combined).

0 - Number of principal civilian or Pentagon staff members who planned the war who have immediate family members serving in uniform in Iraq.

8 - Number of members of the US Senate and House of Representatives who have a child serving in the military.

10 - Number of days that the Pentagon spent investigating a soldier who had called the President "a joke" in a letter to the editor of a Newspaper.

46 - Percentage increase in sales between 2001 and 2002 of GI Joe figures (children's toys).

Ambitious warrior

2 - Number of Nations that George Bush has attacked and taken over since coming into office.

130 - Approximate Number of countries (out of a total of 191 recognised by the United Nations) with a US military presence.

43 - Percentage of the entire world's military spending that the US spends on defence. (That was in 2002, the year before the invasion of Iraq.)

$401.3bn - Proposed military budget for 2004.

Saviour of Iraq

1983 - The year in which Donald Rumsfeld, Ronald Reagan's special envoy to the Middle East, gave Saddam Hussein a pair of golden spurs as a gift.

2.5 - Number of hours after Rumsfeld learnt that Osama bin Laden was a suspect in the 11 September attacks that he brought up reasons to "hit" Iraq.

237 - Minimum number of misleading statements on Iraq made by top Bush administration officials between 2002 and January 2004, according to the California Representative Henry Waxman.

10m - Estimated number of people worldwide who took to the streets on 21 February 2003, in opposition to the invasion of Iraq, the largest simultaneous protest in world history.

$2bn - Estimated monthly cost of US military presence in Iraq projected by the White House in April 2003.

$4bn - Actual monthly cost of the US military presence in Iraq according to Secretary of Defence Rumsfeld in 2004.

$15m - Amount of a contract awarded to an American firm to build a cement factory in Iraq.

$80,000 - Amount an Iraqi firm spent (using Saddam's confiscated funds) to build the same factory, after delays prevented the American firm from starting it.

2000 - Year that Cheney said his policy as CEO of Halliburton oil services company was "we wouldn't do anything in Iraq".

$4.7bn - Total value of contracts awarded to Halliburton in Iraq and Afghanistan.

$680m - Estimated value of Iraq reconstruction contracts awarded to Bechtel.

$2.8bn - Value of Bechtel Corp contracts in Iraq.

$120bn - Amount the war and its aftermath are projected to cost for the 2004 fiscal year.

35 - Number of countries to which the United States suspended military assistance after they failed to sign agreements giving Americans immunity from prosecution before the International Criminal Court.

92 - Percentage of Iraq's urban areas with access to potable water in late 2002.

60 - Percentage of Iraq's urban areas with access to potable water in late 2003.

55 - Percentage of the Iraqi workforce who were unemployed before the war.

80 - Percentage of the Iraqi workforce who are unemployed a Year after the war.

0 - Number of American combat deaths in Germany after the Nazi surrender in May 1945.

37 - Death toll of US soldiers in Iraq in May 2003, the month combat operations "officially" ended.

0 - Number of coffins of dead soldiers returning home that the Bush administration has permitted to be photographed.

0 - Number of memorial services for the returned dead that Bush has attended since the beginning of the war.

A soldier's best friend

40,000 - Number of soldiers in Iraq seven months after start of the war still without Interceptor vests, designed to stop a round from an AK-47.

$60m - Estimated cost of outfitting those 40,000 soldiers with Interceptor vests.

62 - Percentage of gas masks that army investigators discovered did Not work properly in autumn 2002.

90 - Percentage of detectors which give early warning of a biological weapons attack found to be defective.

87 - Percentage of Humvees in Iraq not equipped with armour capable of stopping AK-47 rounds and protecting against roadside bombs and landmines at the end of 2003.

Making the country safer

$3.29 - Average amount allocated per person Nationwide in the first round of homeland security grants.

$94.40 - Amount allocated per person for homeland security in American Samoa.

$36 - Amount allocated per person for homeland security in Wyoming, Vice-President Cheney's home state.

$17 - Amount allocated per person in New York state.

$5.87 - Amount allocated per person in New York City.

$77.92 - Amount allocated per person in New Haven, Connecticut, home of Yale University, Bush's alma mater.

76 - Percentage of 215 cities surveyed by the US Conference of Mayors in early 2004 that had yet to receive a dime in federal homeland security assistance for their first-response units.

5 - Number of major US airports at the beginning of 2004 that the Transportation Security Administration admitted were Not fully screening baggage electronically.

22,600 - Number of planes carrying unscreened cargo that fly into New York each month.

5 - Estimated Percentage of US air cargo that is screened, including cargo transported on passenger planes.

95 - Percentage of foreign goods that arrive in the United States by sea.

2 - Percentage of those goods subjected to thorough inspection.

$5.5bn - Estimated cost to secure fully US ports over the Next decade.

$0 - Amount Bush allocated for port security in 2003.

$46m - Amount the Bush administration has budgeted for port security in 2005.

15,000 - Number of major chemical facilities in the United States.

100 - Number of US chemical plants where a terrorist act could endanger the lives of more than one million people.

0 - Number of new drugs or vaccines against "priority pathogens" listed by the Centres for Disease Control that have been developed and introduced since 11 September 2001.

Giving a hand up to the advantaged

$10.9m - Average wealth of the members of Bush's original 16-person cabinet.

75 - Percentage of Americans unaffected by Bush's sweeping 2003 cuts in capital gains and dividends taxes.

$42,000 - Average savings members of Bush's cabinet received in 2003 as a result of cuts in capital gains and dividends taxes.

10 - Number of fellow members from the Yale secret society Skull and Bones that Bush has named to important positions (including the Associate Attorney General Robert McCallum Jr. and SEC chief Bill Donaldson).

79 - Number of Bush's initial 189 appointees who also served in his father's administration.

A man with a lot of friends

$113m - Amount of total hard money the Bush-Cheney 2000 campaign received, a record.

$11.5m - Amount of hard money raised through the Pioneer programme, the controversial fund-raising process created for the Bush-Cheney 2000 campaign. (Participants pledged to raise at least $100,000 by bundling together cheques of up to $1,000 from friends and family. Pioneers were assigned numbers, which were included on all cheques, enabling the campaign to keep track of who raised how much.)

George Bush: Money manager

4.7m - Number of bankruptcies that were declared during Bush's first three years in office.

2002 - The worst year for major markets since the recession of the 1970s.

$489bn - The US trade deficit in 2003, the worst in history for a single year.

$5.6tr - Projected national surplus forecast by the end of the decade when Bush took office in 2001.

$7.22tr - US national debt by mid-2004.

George Bush: Tax cutter

87 - Percentage of American families in April 2004 who say they have felt no benefit from Bush's tax cuts.

39 - Percentage of tax cuts that will go to the top 1 per cent of American families when fully phased in.

49 - Percentage of Americans in April 2004 who found that their taxes had actually gone up since Bush took office.

88 - Percentage of American families who will save less than $100 on their 2006 federal taxes as a result of 2003 cut in capital gains and dividends taxes.

$30,858 - Amount Bush himself saved in taxes in 2003.

Employment tsar

9.3m - Number of US unemployed in April 2004.

2.3m - Number of Americans who lost their jobs during first three Years of the Bush administration.

22m - Number of jobs gained during Clinton's eight years in office.

Friend of the poor

34.6m - Number of Americans living below the poverty line (1 in 8 of the population).

6.8m - Number of people in the workforce but still classified as poor.

35m - Number of Americans that the government defines as "food insecure," in other words, hungry.

$300m - Amount cut from the federal programme that provides subsidies to poor families so they can heat their homes.

40 - Percentage of wealth in the United States held by the richest 1 per cent of the population.

18 - Percentage of wealth in Britain held by the richest 1e per cent of the population.

George Bush And his special friend

$60bn - Loss to Enron stockholders, following the largest bankruptcy in US history.

$205m - Amount Enron CEO Kenneth Lay earned from stock option profits over a four-year period.

$101m - Amount Lay made from selling his Enron shares just before the company went bankrupt.

$59,339 - Amount the Bush campaign reimbursed Enron for 14 trips on its corporate jet during the 2000 campaign.

30 - Length of time in months between Enron's collapse and Lay (whom the President called "Kenny Boy") still not being charged with a crime.

George Bush: Lawman

15 - Average number of minutes Bush spent reviewing capital punishment cases while governor of Texas.

46 - Percentage of Republican federal judges when Bush came to office.

57 - Percentage of Republican federal judges after three years of the Bush administration.

33 - Percentage of the $15bn Bush pledged to fight Aids in Africa that must go to abstinence-only programmes.

The Civil libertarian

680 - Number of suspected al-Qa'ida members that the United States admits are detained at Guant·namo Bay, Cuba.

42 - Number of nationalities of those detainees at Guantanamo.

22 - Number of hours prisoners were handcuffed, shackled, and made to wear surgical masks, earmuffs, and blindfolds during their flight to Guantanamo.

32 - Number of confirmed suicide attempts by Guantanamo Bay prisoners.

24 - Number of prisoners in mid-2003 being monitored by psychiatrists in Guantanamo's new mental ward.

A health-conscious president

43.6m - Number of Americans without health insurance by the end of 2002 (more than 15 per cent of the population).

2.4m - Number of Americans who lost their health insurance during Bush's first year in office.

Environmentalist

$44m - Amount the Bush-Cheney 2000 campaign and the Republican National Committee received in contributions from the fossil fuel, chemical, timber, and mining industries.

200 - Number of regulation rollbacks downgrading or weakening environmental laws in Bush's first three years in office.

31 - Number of Bush administration appointees who are alumni of the energy industry (includes four cabinet secretaries, the six most powerful White House officials, and more than 20 other high-level appointees).

50 - Approximate number of policy changes and regulation rollbacks injurious to the environment that have been announced by the Bush administration on Fridays after 5pm, a time that makes it all but impossible for news organisations to relay the information to the widest possible audience.

50 - Percentage decline in Environmental Protection Agency enforcement actions against polluters under Bush's watch.

34 - Percentage decline in criminal penalties for environmental crimes since Bush took office.

50 - Percentage decline in civil penalties for environmental crimes since Bush took office.

$6.1m - Amount the EPA historically valued each human life when conducting economic analyses of proposed regulations.

$3.7m - Amount the EPA valued each human life when conducting analyses of proposed regulations during the Bush administration.

0 - Number of times Bush mentioned global warming, clean air, clean water, pollution or environment in his 2004 State of the Union speech. His father was the last president to go through an entire State of the Union address without mentioning the environment.

1 - Number of paragraphs devoted to global warming in the EPA's 600-page "Draft Report on the Environment" presented in 2003.

68 - Number of days after taking office that Bush decided Not to ratify the Kyoto Protocol, the international treaty to reduce greenhouse gases by roughly 5.2 per cent below 1990 levels by 2012. The United States was to cut its level by 7 per cent.

1 - The rank of the United States worldwide in terms of greenhouse gas emissions.

25 - Percentage of overall worldwide carbon dioxide emissions the United States is responsible for.

53 - Number of days after taking office that Bush reneged on his campaign promise to regulate carbon dioxide emissions from power plants.

14 - Percentage carbon dioxide emissions will increase over the next 10 years under Bush's own global-warming plan (an increase of 30 per cent above their 1990 levels).

408 - Number of species that could be extinct by 2050 if the global-warming trend continues.

5 - Number of years the Bush administration said in 2003 that global warming must be further studied before substantive action could be taken.

62 - Number of members of Cheney's 63-person Energy Task Force with ties to corporate energy interests.

0 - Number of environmentalists asked to attend Cheney's Energy Task Force meetings.

6 - Number of months before 11 September that Cheney's Energy Task Force investigated Iraq's oil reserves.

2 - Percentage of the world's population that is British.

2 - Percentage of the world's oil used by Britain.

5 - Percentage of the world's population that is American.

25 - Percentage of the world's oil used by America.

63 - Percentage of oil the United States imported in 2003, a record high.

24,000 - Estimated number of premature deaths that will occur under Bush's Clear Skies initiative.

300 - Number of Clean Water Act violations by the mountaintop-mining industry in 2003.

750,000 - Tons of toxic waste the US military, the world's biggest polluter, generates around the world each Year.

$3.8bn - Amount in the Superfund trust fund for toxic site clean-ups in 1995, the Year "polluter pays" fees expired.

$0m - Amount of uncommitted dollars in the Superfund trust fund for toxic site clean-ups in 2003.

270 - Estimated number of court decisions citing federal Negligence in endangered-species protection that remained unheeded during the first year of the Bush administration.

100 - Percentage of those decisions that Bush then decided to allow the government to ignore indefinitely.

68.4 - Average Number of species added to the Endangered and Threatened Species list each year between 1991 and 2000.

0 - Number of endangered species voluntarily added by the Bush administration since taking office.

50 - Percentage of screened workers at Ground Zero who now suffer from long-term health problems, almost half of whom don't have health insurance.

78 - Percentage of workers at Ground Zero who now suffer from lung ailments.

88 - Percentage of workers at Ground Zero who Now suffer from ear, nose, or throat problems.

22 - Asbestos levels at Ground Zero were 22 times higher than the levels in Libby, Montana, where the W R Grace mine produced one of the worst Superfund disasters in US history.

Image booster for the US

2,500 - Number of public-diplomacy officers employed by the State Department to further the image of the US abroad in 1991.

1,200 - Number of public-diplomacy officers employed by the State Department to further US image abroad in 2004.

4 - Rank of the United States among countries considered to be the greatest threats to world peace according to a 2003 Pew Global Attitudes study (Israel, Iran, and North Korea were considered more dangerous; Iraq was considered less dangerous).

$66bn - Amount the United States spent on international aid and diplomacy in 1949.

$23.8bn - Amount the United States spent on international aid and diplomacy in 2002.

85 - Percentage of Indonesians who had an unfavourable image of the United States in 2003.

Second-party endorsements

90 - Percentage of Americans who approved of the way Bush was handling his job as president on 26 September 2001.

67 - Percentage of Americans who approved of the way Bush was handling his job as president on 26 September 2002.

54 - Percentage of Americans who approved of the way Bush was handling his job as president on 30 September, 2003.

50 - Percentage of Americans who approved of the way Bush was handling his job as president on 15 October 2003.

49 - Percentage of Americans who approved of the way Bush was handling his job as president in May 2004.

More like the French than he would care to admit

28 - Number of vacation days Bush took in August 2003, the second-longest vacation of any president in US history. (Record holder Richard Nixon.)

13 - Number of vacation days the average American receives each Year.

28 - Number of vacation days Bush took in August 2001, the month he received a 6 August Presidential Daily Briefing headed "Osama bin Laden Determined to Strike US Targets."

500 - Number of days Bush has spent all or part of his time away from the White House at his ranch in Crawford, Texas, his parents' retreat in Kennebunkport, Maine, or Camp David as of 1 April 2004.

No fool when it comes to the press

11 - Number of press conferences during his first three Years in office in which Bush referred to questions as being "trick" ones.

Factors in his favour

3 - Number of companies that control the US voting technology market.

52 - Percentage of votes cast during the 2002 midterm elections that were recorded by Election Systems & Software, the largest voting-technology firm, a big Republican donor.

29 - Percentage of votes that will be cast via computer voting machines that don't produce a paper record.

17 - On 17 November 2001, The Economist printed a correction for having said George Bush was properly elected in 2000.

$113m - Amount raised by the Bush-Cheney 2000 campaign, the most in American electoral history.

$185m - Amount raised by the Bush-Cheney 2004 re-election campaign, to the end of March 2004.

$200m - Amount that the Bush-Cheney 2004 campaign expects to raise by November 2004.

268 - Number of Bush-Cheney fund-raisers who had earned Pioneer status (by raising $100,000 each) as of March 2004.

187 - Number of Bush-Cheney fund-raisers who had earned Ranger status (by raising $200,000 each) as of March 2004.

$64.2m - The Amount Pioneers and Rangers had raised for Bush-Cheney as of March 2004.

85 - Percentage of Americans who can't Name the Chief Justice of the United States.

69 - Percentage of Americans who believed the White House's claims in September 2003 that Saddam Hussein was personally involved in the 11 September attacks.

34 - Percentage of Americans who believed in June 2003 that Saddam's "weapons of mass destruction" had been found.

22 - Percentage of Americans who believed in May 2003 that Saddam had used his WMDs on US forces.

85 - Percentage of American young adults who cannot find Afghanistan, Iraq, or Israel on a map.

30 - Percentage of American young adults who cannot find the Pacific Ocean on a map.

75 - Percentage of American young adults who don't know the population of the United States.

53 - Percentage of Canadian young adults who don't know the population of the United States.

11 - Percentage of American young adults who cannot find the United States on a map.

30 - Percentage of Americans who believe that "politics and government are too complicated to understand."

Another factor in his favour

70m - Estimated number of Americans who describe themselves as Evangelicals who accept Jesus Christ as their personal saviour and who interpret the Bible as the direct word of God.

23m - Number of Evangelicals who voted for Bush in 2000.

50m - Number of voters in total who voted for Bush in 2000.

46 - Percentage of voters who describe themselves as born-again Christians.

5 - Number of states that do not use the word "evolution" in public school science courses.

This is an edited extract from "What We've Lost", by Graydon Carter, published by Little Brown on 9 September


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posted September 03, 2004 15:48     Profile for K   Email K     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Kerry is a strong leader.
He did lead in Viet Nam.
That is something Bush ran away from.

Just like Bush is running away from the families of all the Troops he has sent into a needless war.

I am not that much of a Kerry supporter, but i will admit that i hate Bush that much.
Its not a blind hate either.
Its a pure hate based on facts of what he has done to totally ruin our freedoms in Amerika.


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posted September 03, 2004 18:04     Profile for LyKcantropen   Email LyKcantropen     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
They forgot one little set of statistics, of course.

c6,000: number of Iraqi civilians killed in coalition invasion of Iraq.

300,000 (and this is a very conservative estimate): number of Iraqi citizens murdered by Saddam Hussein during his 25-year reign of terror, manipulation, public execution, degradation and humiliation.

Take your pick. Although Bush and Blair outright lied about WMD (none), Al-Qaeda connections (none) and Iraq's threat to neighbouring nations (none), removing Saddam Hussein was the single most noble act the west has achieved in the new century. It's just a shame it took so long (hello, Bush Snr; Clinton) for it to happen, and that it was conducted on such illogical and duplicitous rationales. If the fools had just said "it's our moral duty to relieve the millions who have suffered from the tyranny of fascist dictatorship", people would have been fine with it.

Bush is a fool. It pains me that so many cannot see it - but he's such a convincing conman. His plans to change the constitution to fulfill his radical Christian agenda are despicable. He's an economic mismanager who would and will happily allow bullshit artists like Ken Lay to fuck millions of hard-working Americans (and Indians - remember Enron's Indian power plant?), to accuse anyone not fully backing his draconian and unneccessary homeland security measures of being in league with terrorists, and to continue to perpetuate the myth the world has about American Imperialism with his idiotic and badly-though through posturing on foreign policy. There is no American Empire, but the Bush Regime does a mighty fine job of making the world convince themselves there is.

But all that said. He was right about Iraq, and Afghanistan. It is one of the greatest shames of the modern left that whole swathes of them, guided only by the idiotic tactics of "pure opposition", to march and protest in the defence of a fascist dictatorship.


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posted September 03, 2004 22:36     Profile for Hatröss   Email Hatröss     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
it seems most americans, i mean the majority of americans are not worried about politics, they are mostly worried about where their next cheeseburger is coming from because they've lived such a laxed out life enjoying our blind freedoms.
if bush and blair had to lie about wmd in order to gain the attention and the backing of the american populace it seems quite logical. the majority of tree hugging americans could care less about whats going on because it seems their stuck in that little box they call the united states. but if you threaten to take away their cheesburgers and tell em sadam is gonna get you then ears start perking up.
it makes perfect sense really... every leader is going to be a fool and have something to hate about them, even future leaders we have not even fathomed yet. shit has to remain in balance though and who ever it is that decides that balance (i sure the hell dont know) has a big job on their hands. see we have a president only for one thing and that is to give everybody someone to point their finger at, when its really the people in the smaller senates and governmental operations who are to blame for the control over lives.

all presidents are just scapegoats, in all countries, the people seem to need ONE leader whos words they listen to, and everyones hate is directed to.


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posted September 03, 2004 22:42     Profile for Hatröss   Email Hatröss     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
anyone ever hear of the Illuminati ?

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Global_Governance_1.htm

kula.. you'll love this man, its BIG.


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posted September 04, 2004 04:40     Profile for BlackCloud   Email BlackCloud     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I'm so sick and fucking tired of hearing this "trickle-down-effect" from the Republicans!

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posted September 04, 2004 08:39     Profile for Simon6   Email Simon6     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
No matter how hard you try, some people don't want know what's going on around them.

Warcorpse, just wanted to say that you got my respect, primarily for having set up this great website, although your political view differs from mine.
Remember when I said Bush was a g.......d moron and I was wondering why some people on this board are able to like that being so much I wasn't particularly thinking of you.

You have to understand that over here in Europe, especially where I live, GW Bush is seen as really stupid and evil.
But not only here.

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posted September 24, 2004 11:55     Profile for K   Email K     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Letter to a Bushmonger:
Why Bush War II Is Unjust

(Hey...Bushmonger VVF site...)
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig3/kenny5.html


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