I lost touch with the band completely when 'that album with the baby washing line' came out and I thought it was rubbish.

I've only just caught up with the band via "The System has Failed"; it's allright, but I miss Ellefson.

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Originally posted by Morgoth_Mothman:

I lost touch with the band completely when 'that album with the baby washing line' came out and I thought it was rubbish.

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I LOVE Youthanasia. All good songs. Lot of personal touch in the songs, not not very common in heavy metal music.

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To compare Mustaine & Ellefson to the partnership that Lennon & McCartney had or Tyler & Perry, Jagger & Richards or any other famous writting duo is way off base IMHO... Dave has never needed help writting great metal tunes. Besides, where's Jr now? In some band going nowhere, doing nothing new. Megadeth will always be Mustaine & Comapany.

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I will seek out the albums I've missed -
I'd forgotten how much I liked them till yesterday, when I listened to "RiP" again for the first time in years.

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Originally posted by schroeder:
...To compare Mustaine & Ellefson to the partnership that Lennon & McCartney had or Tyler & Perry, Jagger & Richards or any other famous writting duo is way off base IMHO...

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I'm sure Mustaine was hurt by Jr's actions... that's rock n roll.

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...Megadeth certainly hasn't suffered any without him...

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'tis true. I've been listening to them all day and the highlight of his playing to me still sounds like "RiP", it sounds of blurs out after that...

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I'm sure Mustaine was hurt by Jr's actions... that's rock n roll.[/QB]

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I'm sure.
It's just so tacky, ending up in the courts like that. "Procul Harem" are the latest to
sue each other...

I mean, it could have been much worse for Ellefson: he could have been part of the "Magic Band", locked in a cupboard for hours, by Beefheart, and forced to listen to one song over and over again till he 'got it'.

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Originally posted by Emlyn K Helicopter:
And I thought KISS took the wilful piss.

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About megadeth - I too fell out with them musically for many years BUT - got their live DVD - rude awakening and thought it was fantastic. I highly recommend it. Holy wars is ferocious on it, and stuff on albums that sounds like tripe - comes over really good live. like 1000 times goodbye - with that godawful bint on the telephone

(I hate it when bands put fx on tracks like that)

(except the car crash at the end of detroit rock city of course - thats been one of my favourite soudns since I was about 6!)

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Not a fan of Pink Floyd I gather.

I love bands that create a surreal listening experience with sounds, voice, textures, etc. If it's done right it's truely mind blowing. Kevin Moore (ex keyboardist from Dream Theater) is amazing when it comes todoing stuff like that. His solo releases and Chroma Key albums are chock-full of layers and sounds that just make it more interesting to listen to.

I've been a Megadeth fan from the first time I heard a demo of Killing is My Buisness... and while Mustaine has had a few crap tunes along the way, he's been pretty consistant with releasing good metal. I consider the RISK album a total mistake. He's tried some different things along the way, some worked some didn't but I'm always at the store on release day when a new Megadeth album gets released, and I'm looking forward to the new album to hear what he's up to now, especially since he has a completely new band. The new song sounds very promising.

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That is indeed the correct title I didn't like that one as much but the more I listened to the lyrics the more I liked it. Not a brutal thrasher but a damn good tune no less with a deep message. I always thought Megadave was a way better lyricist and singer than Jamez.. and he can play circles around Kirk, with a much better style. I think he learn a lot from Poland, not that he was some kinda hack before meeting Chris, but I think he developed a jazzier thrash feel to his playing after Poland enter his life. Dave licks are more interesting than anything Metallica laid down after he left.

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Like 1000 times goodbye - those phone call bits are poo.

Good atmospheric FX can lift a track - but in the wrong hands - and telephone calls - they are often excruciating!

Cher on Gene simmons solo album - although that is admittedly supposed to cheesy.

Isnt it? I just remembered gene doesn't get irony!

MegaDave's riffs are usually very creative - far better than metallicas I agree. and his solos used to be amazing. (although he relies on a few stock licks now - its still good)

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Mez, you are a tough guy to please

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I like the albums when the musicians were fucked up on drugs and alcohol best! Yeah. Does anyone know of a band that got better after they got sober? Just wondering..

Hey wait, is that Kerry King on guitar back in the day?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCkRGEFyc-Q

St.
Stay Morbid

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Killing, Peace sells, So far..,

I like the albums when the musicians were fucked up on drugs and alcohol best! Yeah. Does anyone know of a band that got better after they got sober? Just wondering..

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I do agree some of the "talking bits" in the Megadeth tunes are too cheesey for their own good.

Mez, you are a tough guy to please

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Whoahhhhhhhhh....Dave, man, I was way off here. I'm watching 'Rude' right now and this band is playing with plenty of fire. Maybe I was asleep when i was watching it the first time??? Jeezz...This is damn good. I think I was just miffed cause I was under the impression that this was old concert footage for some reason. My fault for not reading the back of the case!

I agree that some of the releases after Dave sobered up lacked what the drug indused Dave had, and Risk is almost a total piece of shit, but I think he has gotten back to the heavy jazzy thrash style that made Megadeth so unique.
I also agree some of his talking parts do get cheesey after hearing them a few times, but I can live with that.

Have y'all heard of MD45, the side project with Mustaine and Lee Ving, of FEAR? They released a killer cd titled The Craving, which is definitley worth getting. It has a more hardcore feel mixed with a Megadeth vibe. When Dave remastered and extended the album he did all the vocals which makes both cd worthy of adding to your collection. Dave said that many of his fans wanted to hear the album with him on vocals so when he was remastering his catalog he redid MD45 also. Kick ass album and I enjoy it a lot more than the Megadeth albums that were released around that time.

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It's been wierd, reaquainting myself with the band after all this time, as "The System has Failed" sounds exactly like I'd still want them to, a better synthesis between the more melodic style favoured recently and their fantastic sound. To me, still the best guitar players amongst the "mighty handfull" or whatever that generation of old masters are known as.

The remastered version of Crypic Writtings has a bonus track titled BULLPRICK which is worth the price of the cd alone.

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