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Topic: A perspective on downloading/filesharing
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Paulie 88
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posted May 17, 2006 22:47
    
Hi everyone! I had recently promised to share a text w you about p2p/filesharing. The following is an EDIT of a text regarding The Residents, an avant garde group from the US who have been making experimental music, art and film for over 35 years now. They had made a few recordings before their first official releases, recordings which remain officially unreleased because they disavow them. Some "leaked." I thought that the perspective from a mid-sized sales band (numbers not too different than Voivod) might be of interest to some. This was written by Hardy Fox, one of their co-horts/management. ------------ "The first thing is to say that, any assumptions that file sharing is acceptable, without explicit permission from the artist, is completely wrong... (snip) "The excuse that music artists and record companies are all rich pigs doesn't hold up with 90% of the music artists and record companies. It is like saying everyone who goes to college is rich. Most people struggle to afford college. The truth is that anyone who has the technical facilities for downloading music is a rich pig even if they do it at the library. "The excuse that music should be free is a good one because it is true. Music, like food, should be free. But you still have to pay for convenience. You can't walk out of the supermarket with a box of cereal. You have to pay because you didn't grow the grain and process the food and add sugar you made yourself and all the other things that went into putting a box of cereal in a store. Same with music. Make your own and it is free. Get someone else to make it, buy equipment, hire studios and such … and you have to pay for that convenience. Believe me, it is cheaper to buy songs than it is to make songs." -------------- Best, PAULIE PS I know that everyone here is a VOIVOD maniac, and we will all be BUYING the official release. But please know, participating in the activity is tantamount to condoning it. With that out of the way, I'm looking forward to KATORZ! -------------------- Voivoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood!
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DIMESLAND http://youtu.be/2LtFOX6JdVo
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BlackCloud
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Member # 122
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posted May 18, 2006 03:15
Taken from a recent Celtic Frost interview with Tom @ http://www.criticalmass.se/ Q: The ”Monotheist” promo has leaked on the Internet already. What’s your opinion on file sharing and music downloading?
A: That is a question that is almost impossible to answer… ehhmmm, I’m also one who downloads and shares files, I enjoy the Internet, I love the Internet. On the other hand, realistically speaking, I’m also a musician and I need to pay for the albums I make and I cannot go to a grocery store and take like bread and milk from the shelves and just walk out without paying and then come back the next day and expect everything to be full again. It’s very difficult, I see both sides, I’m involved in both sides. On the other hand, when I download tracks from the internet and I really like them, then I do want to have the CD too, and I want to look at the booklet and everything. It usually leads me to go and buy the CD as well, so… who am I to know what the perfect solution is? I’ve been thinking about it a lot, and if I knew the solution to all of this, and what the right way is, I probably would be a genious. I really don’t know where this is gonna lead. -------------------- http://www.reverbnation.com/paulenglish
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Slaytanic
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posted May 18, 2006 10:47
Paulie, even though I understand where you're heading with that quote, I think comparing music to food is ridiculous. Food is not for convenience, it's for survival. Music trading, on the other hand, existed from way back when cassete tapes were the ultimate technology. I'm the first to admit I do trade stuff, but when I like what I hear, I'll go buy the original thing. But then, I do have the money for it. What about the ones who doesn't? Will they buy CDs instead of... food? Come on.Plus: everyone here knows that unles a band is a multi-million seller, the real source for money in the music business (for the bands, not for the corporations) is concerts and merchandise selling, not the mere cents per copy of the CD sales. That being said, I respect your opinion, I just don't agree with it. -------------------- "Forty-five moments of perfection translated through a cautionary escape into the perils of the mundane, the inherent entropy in ultimate order, and the potential threats of eternal, unchecked apathy in civilization; all cloaked in musical expression so thoughtful, creative and forward thinking that almost a quarter-century later, few can even comprehend it, much less match it." (autothrall)
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X-D
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posted May 18, 2006 12:20
Everybody dogs on people for downloading music yet I never hear anything about used CD purchases... Nothing wrong with supporting your local retailor, in fact I encourage it, but keep in mind that no royalties whatsoever are going to the band at that point either.Honest and true music is more culture than product and therefore is going to be shared no matter what people say... This has been going on since the dawn of time and yes, even before capitalism (gasp). I download anything and everything I want to check out and buy everything I can find and afford, same as I always did. One of the major problems with this whole industry how royalties are handled. Interesting topic BTW. -------------------- I am a robot... bleep blop bloop
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Paulie 88
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posted May 18, 2006 21:45
Gotcha, thanks for the responses! I realize that there's cracks in the facade there, but again, it wasn't written by me! But it was from someone I do respect, and it's a timely topic for the consideration. And I just downloaded a pizza. Very best, PAULIE -------------------- Voivoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood!
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posted May 18, 2006 15:01
