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Topic: Die Kreuzen - Voivod's harbringer?
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Hypercube
VoivodFan
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posted April 15, 2005 03:19
    
Since two days I listen to "October File". The CD contains two albums from 1984 and 1986. My first contact with "Die Kreuzen" was the cover version from "Man In The Trees" by Voivod. My second contact was the cover version of "I'm Tired" by Napalm Death. Barney said about "Die Kreuzen": This band is to Hardcore, what Voivod are to Metal. What do I need more to be interested in this band? The first track on the CD is "Man In The Trees". I was totally surprised. The Voivod cover is a really good new Voivod tune, as we all know. I thought Voivod had given the track the Voivod vibe, 'cause he sounds so Voivod. But that's not the way. The original sounds totally Voivod too.  While listening to the other songs from "Die Kreuzen" my feelings changed from - cool, they sound like Voivod - to - I'm shocked, Voivod sounds like them. So much reminds me on Klling Technology, Dimenson Hatröss and Angel Rat. It's the singing, the bass play, the dissonant chords, the freakness, the warmth... even the artwork:  I always thought, Voivod were unique in their time, but after listening to "Die Kreuzen" I have other feelings.
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Hypercube
VoivodFan
Member # 33
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posted April 16, 2005 03:22
This is my first try to upload mp3s. I pray it works. Here is the link to my webspace: some Die Kreuzen mp3s Click "MediaCenter starten" and then you'll see. I hope so. I have not upload the whole albums, just some tracks to get to know. So if it works, you can hear from October File (1986):
"Man In The Trees" (The Orignial)
"Imagine A Light" (Killing Technology Style)
"Melt" (Killing Technology Style)
"Hide And Seek" (little bit Angel Rat and listen to the singing!) Die Kreuzen (1984):
"In School" (Killing Tech)
"No Name" (Killing Tech)
"I'm Tired" (song covered by Napalm Death)
"All White" (bass reminds me of Angel Rat's Freedom)
"Dirt And Decay" (RRRÖÖÖAAARRRish)
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VoivodFan
Member # 33
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posted April 16, 2005 05:00
Kerrang #186 1988Are there any new bands jumping on the VoiVod bandwagon?
Away: "Well some people say that this band called Die Kreuzen from the US sound a lot like us. It's hard for me to say though, because I like 'em!"
Creem #11 THRASH METAL by Mike Gitter
Influenced by Motorhead initially and later by punk bands such as the Sex Pistols, GBH and Die Kreuzen, the sound of Voivod isn't easily pigeonholed. Away even goes so far as to count industrial outfits such as Germany's premier crash-and- burn notables Einsturzende Neubauten and New York's Swans as influences. "We've always been somewhat different and have always listened to many different things," says Away. "I guess you could even call us a punk/metal band." While standard black metallists scream and rage praises to Beelzebub, Voivod concern themselves with the potential hells on Earth.
Brandon Werry August 1987
...Now my hair is totally aflame, since this third outing by VoiVod
reaches white heat temperature and scorches past the skin, leaving hot
bones pleased. Killing Technology reminds me a lot of Die Kreuzen.
I never figured a speed-metal band would do this. By combining the heaviness
and power of metal with the speed and rawness of hardcore (crossing over,
so to speak), then introducing a new element that is beyond the crossover,
VoiVod hints that this could just be the tip of the iceberg of powerful
sound to come. Insanity runs amok ar VoiVod charges with an energetic
crack that keeps the whip flinging through seven wacked-out tracks that
proved lengthy but effective. A distorted guitar twang is lit up by a fine
production that showcases speedy licks and strumming madness backed by smashing
drum beats and vocals that are less gruff than those on the two previous
releases. These various attributes come together wildly and work that much
better. VoiVod could get a lot of recognition with this release; it's their
strongest yet, especially the title track, which grabs your attention with
its unique guitar sound and style. The gang's all here, and this is still
on the turntable. Thumbs up for this VoiVod slab. On Noise International.
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Tangento
VoivodFan
Member # 117
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posted April 16, 2005 15:26
I agree, the key word is 'influence' not 'imitation'. I was into both bands back then, and certainly never felt that one was ripping the other.Blacky, your AV is the fucking bomb. -------------------- "You have the option to drill additional holes in the label,
causing the record to rotate off the side of the turntable" -Tom Ellard - Severed Heads
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VoivodFan
Member # 209
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posted April 23, 2005 18:01
I have/like October File, I actually hear a lot of Killing Joke in this (Revelations, Fire Dances, What's This for, S/T album, Nighttime...) Also, Scratch Acid (pre-Jesus Lizard David Yow/Jesus Lizard bassist and drummers' band) had some very Die Kreuzen/Voivod-ish sounds, and Scratch Acid just sounded like the Birthday Party anyway...then there are the Live Skull albums "Bringing Home the Bait" and "Cloud One" and their s/t EP which also have some similar sounds...BUT SERIOUSLY,
if you like that sound and any of the above bands, you've got to check out Drive Like Jehu's S/T album and "Yank Crime"...highly recommended and influential
Also check out MX-80 Sound which sounded a lot like Die Kreuzen but came out in 1977, were originally from Indiana, Die Kreuzen in Wisconsin probably heard a lot of MX-80
OH YEAH
also
Christian Death's "Only Theatre of Pain," a lot of Die Kreuzen sounds a lot like this excellent Christian Death album (didn't someone in Voivod like this album?)
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blacky
VoivodFan
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posted May 11, 2005 14:36
Yes I did like Christian Death but that wasn't metal at all, more goth, their sound on album has never been that great, but very unique. During those years there is one band that came out very strong for me, Bevis Front, every single album up to "new river head" are excellents, Bevis is an amazing guitarist, not a wanker, even if sometime he goes on for ever, he is very unique an totally original, his style and sound is like Hendrix, I think. I also play every single instrument on most of those recording.
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