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Topic: Somewhere something has happened
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pppaaaüüülll
VoivodFan
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posted February 16, 2005 08:32
    
Last night I was watching a brand new Kreator DVD and all of the sudden a though came through my mind. Wasn’t Kreator on of the bands Voivod toured with and driven with on the same rented little bus across Europe? I think back then Voivod was even more popular then Kreator, Possessed etc. But wat I saw on that DVD was a band with hugh successes across the whole globe. And that is something never happened with Voivod. In my opinion Voivod always were small. But last night I saw the difference in success is, how do I say it?, painful. Could be very well the guys think of it an other way.What I am trying to say is that somewhere along the way things have changed immensely for Voivod. Is it breaking up with Blacky? Is it making the Angel Rat album? Is it not touring Europe after bringing out several albums? For example, Dimension Hatross, Angel Rat, Voivod s/t? Or is it changing musical course every album? I see Kreator albums are pretty much the same…. These questions are bugging me for ages and I hope you do not get me wrong but on the first hand I wish Voivod all the best with 10.000 people crowds and 1.000.000 sale figures. On the other hand I am proud to be a fan of a band that is not that know nowadays. But going to a rock concert meeting not one other guy in a Voivod shirt is least to say shitty. I wonder what your opinions are about this subject. Please help me out to form some kind of meaning. Thanks, Paul -------------------- trrrrr ta trrrrr ta trrrrr ta trrrrr ta trrrrr ta trrrrr
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Skul
VoivodFan
Member # 19
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posted February 16, 2005 14:49
You name it...Mis-management, bullshit labels, cluelessness, sheer bad luck and more recently bonehead touring decisions and horrible p.r., all thrown together throughout their career. There's also their complete ignorance or laziness about using the web as a tool to connect with their fan base. Seen an Away post lately? It *is* extremely frustrating to be a VVF nowadays. But then, it's only a band. So why bother.
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schroeder
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Member # 5
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posted February 16, 2005 17:51
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Originally posted by Skulhed:
You name it...Mis-management, bullshit labels, cluelessness, sheer bad luck and more recently bonehead touring decisions and horrible p.r., all thrown together throughout their career. There's also their complete ignorance or laziness about using the web as a tool to connect with their fan base. Seen an Away post lately? It *is* extremely frustrating to be a VVF nowadays. But then, it's only a band. So why bother.
Couldn't have summed it better myself!!!! I was actually thinking the same thing when I watched the KREATOR dvd. This should be where VOIVOD is atif only things went better in their carreer. I'd kill to watch a VOIVOD dvd created on the level as the RAGE or KREATOR dvds.... they are incredible and very professional. -------------------- yawn
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nunoPT
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Member # 379
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posted February 17, 2005 13:05
As for a DVD i think they have more than enough material for even a 2-dvd package.The main problem in all this years is touring.
Kreator over here are popular and have a loyal fan support, why? 5 or 6 concerts since at least 91 till now.
Voivod in the beginning of the 90's also had a "large" fan basis over here, even non-metalfans (alternative and progressive fans) still like them, but then they ask where the hell are they, are they still putting out albums?
More touring would be nice, Kreator as pointed here toured almost all Europe, South America, Australia, Japan and other places...while Voivod dont.
I just hope this changes soon cause i also haven't seem them LIVE, and its my fave band.
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Head Villain
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Member # 524
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posted February 18, 2005 21:42
Yeah a dvd would be great.. are they too stoned all the time to get round to making it?  I know it sounds bitchy, but I really thought for a while that the last album was some kind of a weird practical joke. Sorry to say that, as it probably sounds offensive.
Also I am an artist, & I have to put up with criticism all the time, in whatever line of work I do, sculpting/ drawing/ painting/ modelling/ whatever, & you need to be really thick-skinned! If my work is sub-standard, I get a bollocking & I don't get paid. I wish people would be kind all the time! But I passed the point of being easily offended a long time ago. Why can't they?!! If the guys don't bother with this website because they don't like people's honest opinions on the last album, that is a shame, & perhaps shows some negativity on their part? Are we supposed to kiss arse & handle them with kid gloves then? This is a great website & most of what I see on here seems pretty positive. If I was in a band & someone put together a website like this, I would just take it as a compliment that anyone could be bothered in the first place.
If we didn't like them we wouldn't be here. -------------------- String em up
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Spaceman Spiff
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Member # 440
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posted March 06, 2005 14:44
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Originally posted by Blurrhog:
I always saw it as this. kreator are one of the easiest thrash band in the world to get into just because its very raw and basic. Well to me Voivod was always the thinking mans thrash/metal band. Either u love em or you hate. Definetaly not a inbetween.
That's my thought too. Voivod's 'weirdness', which I love, is harder for new listeners to get past. And speaking of Voivod shirts at concerts, years ago (mid-90's) I went to the Milwaukee Metalfest wearing one of my Voivod tour shirts. This tall, tattooed, corpsepaint wearing guy came running up to me (just a regular looking guy) and said 'You like Voivod? I like Voivod! I live across the street from Away!' and he dragged me over to meet all of his friends, who didn't speak English (I don't speak French). They were all very friendly and every year after that I would see him there at some point and he'd wave from across the room. I have no idea who he is, but if you wear your shirts you never know what Voivod fans may turn up.
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Mr Eddy
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Member # 302
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posted March 07, 2005 19:48
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Originally posted by Skulhed:
Mis-management, bullshit labels, cluelessness, sheer bad luck and more recently bonehead touring decisions and horrible p.r., all thrown together throughout their career.
I agree 100% with your post, Skul. But these, to me, are only half the reasons why Voïvod didn't make it like Kreator. The other half was explained by Blurrdog (quoted below): quote:
Originally posted by Blurrhog:
I always saw it as this. kreator are one of the easiest thrash band in the world to get into just because its very raw and basic. Well to me Voivod was always the thinking mans thrash/metal band. Either u love em or you hate. Definetaly not a inbetween.
In other words, non-conventional/complex music released thru shitty labels without proper promotion & intense touring = Voïvod.
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posted February 17, 2005 09:29
