The power of this world should belong to the people. Not the idiot son of an asshole.

Right-Wing lovers of War on this site need to look at that link.
You are vastly outnumbered by all the people who hate War.
Those picture really make a statement.
Thank you for that, Code.

Mez...
So we kill Saddam and occupy Iraq.
Who is next?

Saudi Arabia?
Syria?
Iran?
Egypt?
Libya?
Morocco?
Sudan?
Somalia?
Yemen?
Quatar?
Turkey?
The Balkans?
France?
Germany?
Russia?
China?
North Korea?
Cambodia?
Viet Nam?
Laos?
Indonesia?
Malaysia?
Thailand?
Pakistan?
Madagascar?
Argentina?
Mexico?

You pick, Mez.
There are Anti-American elements in ALL the above mentioned places.

Or better yet...Lets just drop all the Nuclear and Chemical Weapons that the United States posseses on them.
Oops! I forgot!
Its ok for the U.S. to have these things in the hands of a madman (Bush), but it is not ok for Saddam, or anyone else who doesnt have our approval.

I have said it before and i will say it again.

Americans...
You will regret this War and blindly electing madmen to be in power.
It may take 100 years...but you will regret it.

Thats what all this comes down to, doesn't it? I've just gone downtown, elbowed my way past old people buying duct tape and tins of beans, to stock up on blank videos. I'm getting this fuckin' war on!

100 years from now? I'll be dead, who gives a shit.

What is this supposed to mean? The wealthy have probably allready left yes. What about the ones who hasnt the money or cant flee due to other reasons? You mean is their fault if some religious madman drops bombs on their heads?
Elected leaders to speak for the people sounds good to me. To bad Mr Bush Jr didnt even get to the president post in a legimite way. This man is under qualified, powerfully ignorant and a threat to world peace and national security. And The mans first business venture was a partnership with the Bin Laden family. How sweet isnt that? Dont name democracy and freedom in the same sentence as Bush jr. Money and power is more fitting.

I say it again. Anyone supporting Bush in this dont give a damn about human rights and peace.

At the same time the US was selling arms to Indonesia in support of Indonesia's invasion of East Timor, this eventually led to the largest case of genocide since the holocaust. The US stood by and did nothing but sell more arms. They also had oil interest in the sea area next to Timor along with Indonesia and Australia.

So the argument that the US are peacekeepers is a blatant and vulgar lie.

In present day Afghanistan aid workers and journalists report that the region is controlled by warlords sponsored by the Bush administration. Where is the promised democracy? Bush is now satisfied because he got to lay his new pipeline through the region.

They are slowly taking control of the Middle East and using puppet governments to suppress the populations.

Bush, Cheney, Perle, Rice etc.. are crapping all over your constitution. Stand up and defend your rights. Europe and the rest of the world supports you. We are not anti-American. We are anti-Bush! US hegemony is causing proliferation of destructive weapons to speed up to seriously dangerous levels.

They are a corrupt few elected by the few for the few.

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Originally posted by escubria:
In present day Afghanistan AID WORKERS and JOURNALIST report that the region is controlled by warlords sponsored by the Bush administration. Where is the promised democracy? Bush is now satisfied because he got to lay his new pipeline through the region.

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This is yet another crock of shit! Dood i would stay off those consparicy webpages if i were you,That kinda stuff can drive you mad. I would like more support to these claims

Yeah they still hate us too.

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Originally posted by code:
Ill guess someone has to start bombing and invading your hometown before you understand what im trying to say.

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What has 9/11 got to do with invading Iraq?
The British MP Robin Cook announced the other day that Saddam possessed no weapons of Mass destruction only chemical and biological weapons which he declared were sold to Iraq by the US and the UK. He has no means of long range deployment No nuclear capability either and abslutely no link to Al Quaed -they are bitter enemies, Saddam is hated in the Arab world- And Cook should know he used to be the British Foreign Secretary and is privy to more military inteligence than you or I. He even resigned from paliament on principle of the illegalty of the war and happens to be one of the most respected politicians in British politics from many sides.

If you want proof of aid reports just look up relief agencies like CARE and read their findings and concerns. They have no need for bias. They don't serve power.

In European news media, journalists can report the situation in Afghanistan. Just check out the websites for BBC, Channel 4, The Guardian, The Irish Times and many other agenda balanced outlets. You will find much proof. Your news media in the states is blinding you Hatross. Business interests rule your airwaves and produce a mostly pro war stance. The rest of the world can see this why can't you. Just look at the worldwide protests, uprecedented in human history. We support the US people, not Bush, but you must also help yourselves and seek out the real news that we can find in Europe.

By the way I have never been on a single conspiracy site in my life. You quite obviously have. My view is actually in line with the majority of consensus in Europe.

You are 100% correct.

Cheers to you Sir!

WHAT ! say that again..??

Quote".What has 9/11 got to do with invading Iraq?

Geesh read the quote and whole thread first.

P.S. go back to the other site.

The US demonised France for using its veto yet the US has used its veto more than any other country on earth on countless other vital and life threatening issues. This info can be found on the UN website.

Why hasn't the US signed up for the UN International Criminal Court when 89 other major and small countries have? What are they afraid of? The countries that have'nt signed up consist of the US and various other dictatorships including Iraq. (Check out the UN website)One of the people named for summons to the court is Henry Kissinger, the amount of evidenced amassed against him for war crimes is monumental. You don't have to look far for info on this. (Read the book the tial of Henry Kissinger by Christopher Hitchens for starters) But he is an American so he is exempt from appearing. It seems like one law for them and one law for us. I thought your leaders were civillised, but they don't like talking.

Furthermore Iraq poses no threat to the US or the UK, two countries he has never attacked nor has the capability to attack.
Terrorist activity will probably increase from all sectors of the Arab world now that war has commenced. You see they just don't want such a domineering US presence which has economic interests in the region.

Dont want you to have a Stroke or anything!

Why is it that when the United States is terrorized and thousands of innocent people are killed it’s “that’s what the US gets!” but if another country (or another country’s embassy) is attacked and people die it’s terrible. At least we’re giving fair warning.

It’s amazing how many American citizens have acquired the OJ Simpson jury mentality of sufficient proof. I guess the only proof that someone is guilty of anything is if they are caught on video tape and their Social Security card, Driver’s Licence, and two other forms of ID, just happen to be falling out of his shirt pocket as he walks by a camera for the world to see. Although, even then you can say that someone doctored the tape. Yeah, Saddam is innocent. He had nothing to do with 09/11, nor could he. This US interest in an Iraq invasion is totally out of nowhere. We didn’t want their oil 5 or 10 or 15 or 20 years ago, but we want it now. Yeah, that sounds right. We don’t want Venezuela’s oil, we just have to have Iraq’s. Yeah that sounds about right. Osama bin Laden acted alone. He had no help. And Al Capone never murdered anyone. And as far as I know, neither did Hitler or Micheal Corleone.

People speak as if thousands of people won’t die if the US doesn’t invade Iraq. Thousands of Iraqis are dying already and will die whether we invade or not. But at least if we invade, there is a foreseeable end to it all. I’ve no doubt that information leaked in/by the US Intel leans on the side of war support for the purpose of justifying their actions; but to think that European countries don’t do the same thing to justify their inaction is naïve beyond belief. But does that prove either side wrong? No. I love how these anti-war people wear these “white coats (metaphor)” and act as the supreme example of objectivity. Their agenda is as obvious as anybody’s.

I also don’t understand the logic behind the criticism that the US is acting against the UN. The way I say it, they are one of only a few nations that are acting in accordance with its mandates. The UN has a law, and the US actually wants to enforce it (go figure). How convenient was it for France to have signed on to a UN resolution (1441) that calls for action if there is no compliance knowing that all along it could veto it. How spineless is that?

But whatever……it seems that logic doesn’t have a place when defending the US position. The anti-war people (like France as well as US citizens) don’t want war no matter what the circumstance is. I guess the only thing that justified the US participation in WWII was our being bombed by Japan. Otherwise I guess it wouldn’t have been worth stopping the extermination of Jews. After all, Hitler wasn’t a threat to us. Their bombs could never reach US soil. When the US was bombed by Japan, did anybody complain about our involvement in other countries? After all, Hitler had no ties with Japan right?

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Originally posted by warcorpse:
My wife's hometown was bombed and invaded (Pol Pot regime) when she was young, she escaped the country and lived in a refugee camp for 4 years....and she support's Bush.

So I guess your guess was a guess.

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Originally posted by Hatross:
Where theres a Will, Theres a Way.

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so Hatross... it should apply in all cases right? according to that there is er... was no will to avoid war...
course, I'm sure it was decided from day one, Bush was certainly hoping he'd get backed up by the (late-)UN at some point but he knew he would wage this war.