Maybe the drums are the only inspiring thing about Point Of Entry...

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Originally posted by h:
(...)And I can't believe that Halford's coming out of the closet surprised anyone!

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Originally posted by Nuclear Vampire:

I have to disagree with you there. Judas Priest invented power metal. Exciter and Let Us Pray are the first power metal songs. If it wasn't for those tunes (and for Priest in general) Helloween and all the rest wouldn't exist! I would even say that most of the Ram It Down album is power metal.

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One of the few metal bands that I still find listenable - bar the obvious exceptions.
My fave album album being "Unleashed" - what a record. Amazing.
For those who aren't sure about the sound - you have to remember that Priest were carving out a new sound/image that has become institutionalised. (Some credit Accept with the first "metal" album, but I don't know the timing precisely.)
Priest took the style Sabbath pretty much invented and within the space of three albums had given it a new adrenalised, aggressive and broader sound (maybe not "bigger" though. ).

To me "British Steel" is pretty much THE album that suddenly defined what metal actually is/was in the public's conciousness.
I think the same could be said for Slayer's "Reign in Blood".
Both of those albums have been consistantly studied/exploited and defined a sound that still remains today.
All else comes afterwards, in it's wake.

Grinder...Looking for Meat
Grinder...Wants you to eat!

lol!

I always found that song funny. Love it though!

My personal favourite is:

"Wielding the axe
Comes the one culmination
That's always seemed
Certain to bring down the curtain on greed

Sifting the good from the bad
It's the age for the rage of the
Dogs which must fall to the just
And be free

Now grate for the vandals
Who trampled and sampled
Till this place conditioned
Brought forth demolition to war

The slipping and sliding
Corrosive subsiding
That withered and waned
Till the world seemed all drained
Fills the bay"

From "Rapid Fire". It doesn't really mean anything but it sounds sooooo good from Halford.

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Originally posted by satan:
Halford's Lyrics.

Grinder...Looking for Meat
Grinder...Wants you to eat!

lol!

I always found that song funny. Love it though!

I thought that Led Zepplin or Deep Purple
has the first elements of Metal.
Just like The Who were REALLY the first Punk Band.
(My own mis-guided opinion.)

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If you listen to early Priest you can hear the almost Prog-ish beginnings, same with Sabbath and Zep. It's amazing how quickly they defined that sound. I've alway thought "Sad Wings" with modern production would pass as one of todays Prog-metal efforts. Though with that sort of revisionism you could claim just about anything!

Mind you I've always thought Crimson's "red" sounds like posh Black Sabbath.

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Originally posted by satan:
Halford's Lyrics.
I thought that Led Zepplin or Deep Purple
has the first elements of Metal.
Just like The Who were REALLY the first Punk Band.
(My own mis-guided opinion.)

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Originally posted by Emlyn K Helicopter:
Whilst the lyrics from Ram It Down crumble under scrutiny, the ones on Crucible are excellent!

And just a quick glance at post-Halford Priest lyrics confirms where the best words came from. Tipton is a genius on the plank but his lyrics suck.

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Judas Priest
Sin After Sin (1977)
Raw Deal

I made a spike about nine o'clock on a Saturday
All eyes hit me as I walked into the door
Then ??? and then the guys were fooling in the demin dudes
A couple cards played rough stuff, New York, fire island

I cased the joint, straining at the scenes

I moseyed up to the counter and the tender came a-grinnin'
I snapped the smile off his face and scowled 'Give me a bourbon'
The mirror on the wall was collecting and reflecting
All the heavy bodies ducking, stealing eager for some action
The scene screwed me up, I saw some contact
Then the big boys, saw me and knew that

I'd had too much, floating around
Statues alive, seconds are hours

Sacks like a hurricane, wrapped in and shattered
I was barely holding on to this flying body symphony
I guess I dream in pictures, not colors
The true free expression I demand is human rights - right

I gave my life, I am immortal

I'm going, no loss
I'm going, no loss
I'm going, no loss
I'm going, no loss

Nightmare, just a bunch of goddamn, rotten, steaming, raw
Deal

I'm glad you mentioned Raw Deal. It was gayer than "Frankie goes to Hollywood". Not bad given it's a lot older and indeed a lot better than stuff like that.

But their best work IMO was in the 70s.

Sad Wings of Destiny
Sin After Sin
Stained Class

'Tis a shame cause he WAS another great drummer - and he wrote the music for "Beyond the Realms of Death"!

As a Drummer, i think its cool the way Simon uses the 'China-Type' throughout the CD.
All the HH and Cymbal-work on the Album are GREAT!
Hell! Its all good!

Just listen to what he does on 'Starbreaker' alone!
Smooth!

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Originally posted by BumEggs:
Scott revitalised the band MASSIVELY.

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A yet to be matched definition. Simon is a great drummer, hands down, but too jazzy for what Judas Priest had become in the subsequent years. And I think it's safe to quote that, besides being a superb album, "Sin After Sin" is not a definition of the vintage Priest sound, which only started to take shape on Stained Class (criminally forgotten here, BTW).