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Topic: French Speaking Voiheads here ?
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The Neverman
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posted July 16, 2002 06:00
    
présent !
j'ai toujours trouvé que le français n'était pas très adapté au metal, les sonorités anglaises passent mieux.approximate translation:
I always thought that french was not very well fit for metal, english sonorities are much more suitable. But as they are QC-native, Voïvod may well have pondered the opportunity to choose either french or english at some point, no? Blacky? Anyone? The issue is important in french speaking countries. In France we cannot get money from "Ministère de la Culture" if we sing in english. To sing in french is viewed as promoting "french culture" and thus brings a sort of *respectability*. Anyway, I really think that THE choice should be english if one aims at an international career.
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Skul
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posted July 16, 2002 09:20
Voivod wanted to take over the world, and english was the language of choice. They wouldnt be nearly as known today if they recorded War & Pain in french (Guerre & Douleur? hahaha!), for instance. They probably wouldve broke up by the 2nd album. It's just too tiny a market. Too small a fanbase.And The Outcast is absolutely right: french and metal dont mix. Very few bands could pull it off. Sortilège did in the early 80's, but where are they now? English is the way to go. If i hadnt learned it as a kid, i probably wouldnt be here, bullshittin' with y'all, y'know. It's really not hard to learn. Fait un effort, greg  [ July 16, 2002: Message edited by: Skulhed ]
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The Neverman
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posted July 16, 2002 09:24
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Originally posted by The Outcast:
But as they are QC-native, Voïvod may well have pondered the opportunity to choose either french or english at some point, no? Blacky? Anyone?
Originally asserted by Away in the 1993 ITW Warcorpse posted lately:
"When we were young, the music we were listening to and playing would come from England and the U.S., so it came really natural to write songs in English when we formed the band". quote:
Originally posted by The Outcast:
Anyway, I really think that THE choice should be english if one aims at an international career.
Originally asserted by Away in the 1993 ITW Warcorpse posted lately:
"If you want to travel the world there's only one way to do it, and that's to sing in English". Well, Away kind of answered my question. Thank you so!
And he also agrees with me that english is the only choice if you're gonna write metal songs...  [ July 16, 2002: Message edited by: The Outcast ]
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nia
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posted July 16, 2002 11:43
Ugh, the language debate. The 'respectability' issue that you speak of is Outcast even stronger in Quebec, it's purely political. I don't think Voivod would be offered a slot on any big summer festival stage, like Saint Jean-Baptiste, etc., because their songs are in English. But English is international, there's no way around it. C'est comme ça que sa marche.You know, even though Voivod wrote songs in English they took the language and made it their own, which is what I really like about their choice, since they didn't speak it when they started writing and some of it is wacked from a linguistic perspective, lol. I can remember that even by their Soundgarden/FNM tour they didn't speak English. If they wrote in French I don't think they would have ever made it out of Quebec, I honestly don't think they would have got their first US deal in spite of the music.
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El Indio
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posted July 17, 2002 03:24
So King Kula Shaker do you have dual citizenship? Would be a trip if you do! I'm sure it would be funny to here an american speak french with a southern drawl!  But what can I say, my own french skills are friggin horrible! When I was still in high school it got to the point where I just gave up and basically manufactured my own pronounciations for various french words, phrases, etc.. Whenever my last teacher asked me to say anything out loud in class I would just start babbling and slurring like a drunken sot! Quite often I would also spell a french term exactly the way it sounded. For example, Blacky's little rat-dog is named Jorge. If I had to pronounce this word, I would say "George" but if I had to spell it after someone said it out loud in french, I would write "Whore-Hey"! Sorry Blacky! Needless to say that as a result of my incompetence, I was finally allowed to drop out of french and in to a very insane art class. Actually, I think my french teacher finally had her fill of me when I asked her if the french pronounciation for the english word "seal" is "La fuck"! "What!?! Did I say something wrong!?!" [ July 17, 2002: Message edited by: El Indio ]
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El Indio
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posted July 18, 2002 04:18
Noitall recently laughed:
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Haha...Jorge is Spanish, not French.
French, Spanish, Swahili, whatever; it's all Greek to me! h recently demanded:
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Speak english proper, like wot I does.
Wow, do you speak Queen's English? In regards to music, if I like it, I'll listen to it regardless of the language.Unfortunately I don't have much of a choice out here on the westcoast because 99.9% of all music I come across on T.V., radio, major chain record stores, etc., is in English. When it comes to indie record stores and radio stations (Co-Op radio, U.B.C.'s station CITR), it is more like 85-90+% English. Actually I should revise what I just said (Its close to my bedtime again - my mind is starting its shutdown sequence!) for if I happen to go to a major store like HMV I could find "international" music. But why the heck would I do that when I could make a beeline for the Heavy Metal section!?! 
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posted July 16, 2002 03:38
posted July 17, 2002 10:48
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